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THIS is the mystery landmark tourist attraction proposed for Poole - a giant sundial called the Solar Pyramid.
Today the Daily Echo can reveal details of the enormous structure, which has been called the world's largest timepiece and the United Kingdom's largest artwork.
Originally proposed for a Derbyshire town and described as the most exciting "art meets science" project in the UK, its size for Poole is unconfirmed.
But the three polished steel wings could stretch 40-45 metres into the sky, casting a shadow across the 65-metre piazza, with the potential to attract 400,000 visitors a year.
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The Borough of Poole has been approached by a private company eager to bring the world class attraction to the town, and has identified its waterside Harbourside Park (Baiter) as a potential location.
However the first reaction of Baiter resident and Parkstone Bay Association chairman David Howard was: "Over our dead bodies. I think residents will be rioting over this."
He said: "To even consider placing such an attraction' adjacent to a densely-populated residential area immediately bordering this park, is an act of irresponsibility."
It would use up most of our open space, cause traffic chaos and be an engineering nightmare to build on reclaimed land, he said.
"It has the smell of Dolphin Quays about it which started the same way - excluding the public, in smoke-filled rooms," he said.
Designed by leading engineers, astronomers and artists, the scientific sundial and fine art sculpture would loom over the town.
It would tower over the 20m Angel of the North, but would be dwarfed by Portsmouth's 170m Spinnaker Tower.
As well as being a tourist and education attraction, the project, where visitors would be able to explore time, would create a number of jobs.
Council leader Cllr Brain Leverett has welcomed it as an "exciting proposition" and said: "Early reactions have been extremely positive.
"However, before we can be certain that the Solar Pyramid would be right for Poole, a lot of assessment and evaluation work needs to be undertaken and work will progress over the next few months."
Project architect and artist Richard Lester Swain said: "The Solar Pyramid would be a thing of considerable beauty.
"It would be a piece of sculpture that offers people an opportunity for quiet reflection but combined with this it would have real scientific interest, an important educational role and it would contribute to the local economy."
It has the support of the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, and the high-tech sundial aims to create a moving demonstration of the link between time and space and the power of the sun on everyday life.
7:39am Tuesday 13th November 2007
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CommentPosted by: johnathan livingston seagull, wallisdown on 7:51am Tue 13 Nov 07
oh - cant wait................
..,excitement coursing through my body. huh
oh - cant wait................
..,excitement coursing through my body. huh
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 8:21am Tue 13 Nov 07
So why did they move the project from Derbyshire? Because the East Midlands Development Agency wouldn't stump up any cash for it, that's why. Which raises the question: which local agency is willing to give financial support for the project in Poole? Perhaps Poole Borough Council itself is providing the cash? If so, I think the developers have seen them coming. Perhaps I should approach them with my idea of a monorail?!
So why did they move the project from Derbyshire? Because the East Midlands Development Agency wouldn't stump up any cash for it, that's why. Which raises the question: which local agency is willing to give financial support for the project in Poole? Perhaps Poole Borough Council itself is providing the cash? If so, I think the developers have seen them coming. Perhaps I should approach them with my idea of a monorail?!
Posted by: Charlie on 8:23am Tue 13 Nov 07
Initial reactions positive? From whom? Presumably from those who will gain financially one way or another. This is the first the public have heard what it proposed, and I don't their their reaction will be positive.
Presumably it will cast a giant shadow over the area to its north.
Initial reactions positive? From whom? Presumably from those who will gain financially one way or another. This is the first the public have heard what it proposed, and I don't their their reaction will be positive.
Presumably it will cast a giant shadow over the area to its north.
Posted by: PokesdownMark, Pokesdown on 8:42am Tue 13 Nov 07
Seems like it was going to be built in Derbyshire until quite recently. Wonder what went wrong there then?
The scheme appears to have a parallel sales channel in the form of "moments in time" which you can buy for the sum of £49.75 - involves something being engraved onto the side of the structure. So basically its a glorified advertising board!
2 relevant web sites:
http://www.solarpyra
mid.co.uk/
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/derby
shire/6981214.stm
Also mention on Labour MP's website though the cost of engraving is £1001 there (business rates you know):
http://www.nataschae
ngelmp.org.uk/camp_c
ons.php
Seems like this is a money making scheme really. Which is not a bad thing in itself. But I think tradition suggests engravings on monuments (or things that look like monuments) are earned and not bought. So this all feels a bit tawdry to me.
Seems like it was going to be built in Derbyshire until quite recently. Wonder what went wrong there then?
The scheme appears to have a parallel sales channel in the form of "moments in time" which you can buy for the sum of £49.75 - involves something being engraved onto the side of the structure. So basically its a glorified advertising board!
2 relevant web sites:
http://www.solarpyra
mid.co.uk/
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/derby
shire/6981214.stm
Also mention on Labour MP's website though the cost of engraving is £1001 there (business rates you know):
http://www.nataschae
ngelmp.org.uk/camp_c
ons.php
Seems like this is a money making scheme really. Which is not a bad thing in itself. But I think tradition suggests engravings on monuments (or things that look like monuments) are earned and not bought. So this all feels a bit tawdry to me.
Posted by: fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown on 8:53am Tue 13 Nov 07
Poole's IMAX?
Posted by: JLC, here on 9:01am Tue 13 Nov 07
Hmmm looks nice. But wont a polised steel panel reflect the suns heat and burn all the visitors to death.
What's it actually got to do with the area?
Hmmm looks nice. But wont a polised steel panel reflect the suns heat and burn all the visitors to death.
What's it actually got to do with the area?
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 9:07am Tue 13 Nov 07
It's got nothing to do with the area. And it pales in comparison with the natural beauty of Poole Harbour behind it. Perhaps it would be fine in another location, but not this one.
It's got nothing to do with the area. And it pales in comparison with the natural beauty of Poole Harbour behind it. Perhaps it would be fine in another location, but not this one.
Posted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 9:40am Tue 13 Nov 07
gross is the only word to describe it. why on earth would anyone even consider such a horrible structure. More traffic chaos if visitors are expected, leave baiter as it is please
gross is the only word to describe it. why on earth would anyone even consider such a horrible structure. More traffic chaos if visitors are expected, leave baiter as it is please
Posted by: Charlie on 9:49am Tue 13 Nov 07
Poole Council please note - HERE ARE INITIAL REACTIONS! and none of them "positive".
Poole Council please note - HERE ARE INITIAL REACTIONS! and none of them "positive".
Posted by: jobsworthwatch, Bournemouth on 9:52am Tue 13 Nov 07
What a waste of effort, at least cover it with solar cells so its of sme use!
What a waste of effort, at least cover it with solar cells so its of sme use!
Posted by: John, Poole on 11:23am Tue 13 Nov 07
Even thinking this monstrosity in such a picturesque area 'offers people an opportunity for quiet reflection' is evil. All it will do is mirror Bournemouth's IMAX and obscure views across Poole Harbour.It would become THE DEVIL OF THE SOUTH!
Even thinking this monstrosity in such a picturesque area 'offers people an opportunity for quiet reflection' is evil. All it will do is mirror Bournemouth's IMAX and obscure views across Poole Harbour.It would become THE DEVIL OF THE SOUTH!
Posted by: denis, bournemouth on 11:27am Tue 13 Nov 07
What monstrosity, and how it would spoil the area and view. If
the architect thinks it is such a wonderful thing, let him build it...in his own back garden.
Why waste public money on such an eyesore
What monstrosity, and how it would spoil the area and view. If
the architect thinks it is such a wonderful thing, let him build it...in his own back garden.
Why waste public money on such an eyesore
Posted by: Richard, Bournemouth on 11:31am Tue 13 Nov 07
A 2nd hand idea that bears no relation to Poole's maritime heritage or history. If it was'nt acceptable for Derbyshire why is it acceptable for this to blight the views around Poole Harbour. There's already been enough unsympathetic development as it is.
A 2nd hand idea that bears no relation to Poole's maritime heritage or history. If it was'nt acceptable for Derbyshire why is it acceptable for this to blight the views around Poole Harbour. There's already been enough unsympathetic development as it is.
Posted by: the owl on 11:32am Tue 13 Nov 07
They already got one in Derby and its plastered with graffiti this will be the same cant we stop it
They already got one in Derby and its plastered with graffiti this will be the same cant we stop it
Posted by: pilot, Bournemouth on 11:37am Tue 13 Nov 07
What a Ghastley Idea. It would block some wonderful views of the harbour. Have the people who decide these things got no thought for the rest of us. It certainly clashes with the natural beauty of the harbour.
What a Ghastley Idea. It would block some wonderful views of the harbour. Have the people who decide these things got no thought for the rest of us. It certainly clashes with the natural beauty of the harbour.
Posted by: Gastines, St.Malo ex Bournemouth on 11:47am Tue 13 Nov 07
I seem to remember Bournemouth council purchased a £50K piece of ARTWORK, a pile of stone blocks and now worth nothing. Poole obviously hasn't learnt any lessons from it's neighbour or from the Caro ARTWORK.Spending money on another feasability study seems like creating jobs for the sake of Empire building at locals expense.
I seem to remember Bournemouth council purchased a £50K piece of ARTWORK, a pile of stone blocks and now worth nothing. Poole obviously hasn't learnt any lessons from it's neighbour or from the Caro ARTWORK.Spending money on another feasability study seems like creating jobs for the sake of Empire building at locals expense.
Posted by: Terry Pardy, Broadstone on 11:48am Tue 13 Nov 07
What a load or rubbish and according to the website link above funding problems for the Derbyshire eyesore are solved (6th Sept 2007)! Staveley is the location and I lived near there for a while and it certainly wouldn't attract tourists to that place! How much would the studies Cllr Leverett mention cost? [bold]Bin it Poole[/bold] before you get out of your depth with your ratepayers!
What a load or rubbish and according to the website link above funding problems for the Derbyshire eyesore are solved (6th Sept 2007)! Staveley is the location and I lived near there for a while and it certainly wouldn't attract tourists to that place! How much would the studies Cllr Leverett mention cost?
Bin it Poole before you get out of your depth with your ratepayers!
Posted by: jonnie s, bournemouth on 11:48am Tue 13 Nov 07
Dont like change do we you lot. I think it would be a great idea. We need something to bring visitors to the area all year round. With surf reef and innovative sculptural landmarks we might be moving in the right direction.
Dont like change do we you lot. I think it would be a great idea. We need something to bring visitors to the area all year round. With surf reef and innovative sculptural landmarks we might be moving in the right direction.
Posted by: Ted, Bournemouth on 11:48am Tue 13 Nov 07
If it's a noteworthy piece of architecture then great, but I fear it will be a tawdry heap of junk - well at least it will match some of the other low grade edifices in Poole!
If it's a noteworthy piece of architecture then great, but I fear it will be a tawdry heap of junk - well at least it will match some of the other low grade edifices in Poole!
Posted by: John, Poole on 12:03pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]jonnie s[/bold] wrote:
Dont like change do we you lot. I think it would be a great idea. We need something to bring visitors to the area all year round. With surf reef and innovative sculptural landmarks we might be moving in the right direction.[/quote] If this is considered 'moving in the right direction' for Cameron's Conservatives, let the local Leader of Poole's Tory Council stay 'excited' about it, at his peril.
jonnie s wrote:
Dont like change do we you lot. I think it would be a great idea. We need something to bring visitors to the area all year round. With surf reef and innovative sculptural landmarks we might be moving in the right direction.
If this is considered 'moving in the right direction' for Cameron's Conservatives, let the local Leader of Poole's Tory Council stay 'excited' about it, at his peril.
Posted by: life on mars, Poole on 12:24pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]the owl[/bold] wrote:
They already got one in Derby and its plastered with graffiti this will be the same cant we stop it [/quote] No they have not
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/70914
17.stm
Lets go for it. At least it will be better then seeing blocks of tiny flats being built by developers. But remember councillors, you will not be able to get any council tax from it or will you ?
No body seemed to like the Angel of the North now its a local landmark.
the owl wrote:
They already got one in Derby and its plastered with graffiti this will be the same cant we stop it
No they have not
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/70914
17.stm
Lets go for it. At least it will be better then seeing blocks of tiny flats being built by developers. But remember councillors, you will not be able to get any council tax from it or will you ?
No body seemed to like the Angel of the North now its a local landmark.
Posted by: Richard, Bournemouth on 1:06pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]life on mars[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]the owl[/bold] wrote: They already got one in Derby and its plastered with graffiti this will be the same cant we stop it [/quote] No they have not http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/england/70914 17.stm Lets go for it. At least it will be better then seeing blocks of tiny flats being built by developers. But remember councillors, you will not be able to get any council tax from it or will you ? No body seemed to like the Angel of the North now its a local landmark. [/quote] This 'artwork' has been in negotiation in Derbyshire for 7 years and now the artist is desperately trying to push the idea onto someone else. It's quite clear that it failed to secure funding and support in the Midlands and I'm amazed that Poole Council would see this of being of local benefit.
It'd cost a small fortune having the graffiti cleaned from it every day. Why should Poole Council Tax payers pick up the tab for this folly?
Surely, the South West Development Agency would follow their East Midlands counterparts and withold funding? That leaves private sponsorship and the prospect of the pyramid being covered in tacky advertising.
life on mars wrote:
the owl wrote: They already got one in Derby and its plastered with graffiti this will be the same cant we stop it
No they have not http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/england/70914 17.stm Lets go for it. At least it will be better then seeing blocks of tiny flats being built by developers. But remember councillors, you will not be able to get any council tax from it or will you ? No body seemed to like the Angel of the North now its a local landmark.
This 'artwork' has been in negotiation in Derbyshire for 7 years and now the artist is desperately trying to push the idea onto someone else. It's quite clear that it failed to secure funding and support in the Midlands and I'm amazed that Poole Council would see this of being of local benefit.
It'd cost a small fortune having the graffiti cleaned from it every day. Why should Poole Council Tax payers pick up the tab for this folly?
Surely, the South West Development Agency would follow their East Midlands counterparts and withold funding? That leaves private sponsorship and the prospect of the pyramid being covered in tacky advertising.
Posted by: Very Old Man, Poole on 1:20pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Another 400,000 visitors a year? At the moment the Old Town area cannot cope with the ammount of traffic that hits us in the summer as it is, the roads come to a standstill on a daily basis.
Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.
Another 400,000 visitors a year? At the moment the Old Town area cannot cope with the ammount of traffic that hits us in the summer as it is, the roads come to a standstill on a daily basis.
Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.
Posted by: Very Old Man, Poole on 1:25pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Another 400,000 visitors a year? At the moment the Old Town area cannot cope with the ammount of traffic that hits us in the summer as it is, the roads come to a standstill on a daily basis.
Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.
Another 400,000 visitors a year? At the moment the Old Town area cannot cope with the ammount of traffic that hits us in the summer as it is, the roads come to a standstill on a daily basis.
Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.
Posted by: Simon, London on 2:25pm Tue 13 Nov 07
ha ha. Too right they don't like change Jonnie S.
It looks nice - depends where it's built though. Will mean some publicity and interest, which can only be good?
ha ha. Too right they don't like change Jonnie S.
It looks nice - depends where it's built though. Will mean some publicity and interest, which can only be good?
Posted by: philip.eades, Civic Centre, Poole on 2:34pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Perhaps Cllr Brian Leverett will read these objections seriously and not treat them with contempt as he did my representation to last weeks secret Cabinet meeting which told him what the public reaction would be - a failed project from another location to be placed on one of Poole's most beautiful pieces of public open space spoiling both public and private views of the Harbour, Brownsea, the Purbecks and Sandbanks creating traffic and parking horrors and costing the Council fortunes
Please note that the Cabinet agreed last Tuesday to spend a significant sum of money in investigating this eyesore - I'm not allowed to tell you how much because its confidential!!!
Cllr Philip Eades
Perhaps Cllr Brian Leverett will read these objections seriously and not treat them with contempt as he did my representation to last weeks secret Cabinet meeting which told him what the public reaction would be - a failed project from another location to be placed on one of Poole's most beautiful pieces of public open space spoiling both public and private views of the Harbour, Brownsea, the Purbecks and Sandbanks creating traffic and parking horrors and costing the Council fortunes
Please note that the Cabinet agreed last Tuesday to spend a significant sum of money in investigating this eyesore - I'm not allowed to tell you how much because its confidential!!!
Cllr Philip Eades
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 2:34pm Tue 13 Nov 07
We do like change actually - but only if it benefits the area. It might look nice in the brochure, but I'll bet it won't look so good in reality (particularly once it's suffered a few years of weathering, bird poo and graffiti).
We do like change actually - but only if it benefits the area. It might look nice in the brochure, but I'll bet it won't look so good in reality (particularly once it's suffered a few years of weathering, bird poo and graffiti).
Posted by: rebus, Corfe Mullen on 2:39pm Tue 13 Nov 07
I suppose if we actually got some sun you could tell the time with it - There you go, it is useful after all :-)
Maybe if they put it near Baiter it would help to hide those awfull looking blocks of flats they've just built...
I suppose if we actually got some sun you could tell the time with it - There you go, it is useful after all :-)
Maybe if they put it near Baiter it would help to hide those awfull looking blocks of flats they've just built...
Posted by: Richard, Bournemouth on 2:53pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]philip.eades[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps Cllr Brian Leverett will read these objections seriously and not treat them with contempt as he did my representation to last weeks secret Cabinet meeting which told him what the public reaction would be - a failed project from another location to be placed on one of Poole's most beautiful pieces of public open space spoiling both public and private views of the Harbour, Brownsea, the Purbecks and Sandbanks creating traffic and parking horrors and costing the Council fortunes Please note that the Cabinet agreed last Tuesday to spend a significant sum of money in investigating this eyesore - I'm not allowed to tell you how much because its confidential!!! Cllr Philip Eades[/quote] Cllr Eades
If you 'whistleblew' on this, would'nt you be protected under the Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998?
philip.eades wrote:
Perhaps Cllr Brian Leverett will read these objections seriously and not treat them with contempt as he did my representation to last weeks secret Cabinet meeting which told him what the public reaction would be - a failed project from another location to be placed on one of Poole's most beautiful pieces of public open space spoiling both public and private views of the Harbour, Brownsea, the Purbecks and Sandbanks creating traffic and parking horrors and costing the Council fortunes Please note that the Cabinet agreed last Tuesday to spend a significant sum of money in investigating this eyesore - I'm not allowed to tell you how much because its confidential!!! Cllr Philip Eades
Cllr Eades
If you 'whistleblew' on this, would'nt you be protected under the Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998?
Posted by: snoff, Poole on 3:09pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Phil[/bold] wrote:
So why did they move the project from Derbyshire? Because the East Midlands Development Agency wouldn't stump up any cash for it, that's why. Which raises the question: which local agency is willing to give financial support for the project in Poole? Perhaps Poole Borough Council itself is providing the cash? If so, I think the developers have seen them coming. Perhaps I should approach them with my idea of a monorail?![/quote] monorail,monorail,mo
norail!!!!!
some of the locals on this site are like charactors from the simpsons :)
Phil wrote:
So why did they move the project from Derbyshire? Because the East Midlands Development Agency wouldn't stump up any cash for it, that's why. Which raises the question: which local agency is willing to give financial support for the project in Poole? Perhaps Poole Borough Council itself is providing the cash? If so, I think the developers have seen them coming. Perhaps I should approach them with my idea of a monorail?!
monorail,monorail,mo
norail!!!!!
some of the locals on this site are like charactors from the simpsons :)
Posted by: snoff, Poole on 3:12pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Very Old Man[/bold] wrote:
Another 400,000 visitors a year? At the moment the Old Town area cannot cope with the ammount of traffic that hits us in the summer as it is, the roads come to a standstill on a daily basis. Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.[/quote] thats why we need the monorail!!!!!!!!!
Very Old Man wrote:
Another 400,000 visitors a year? At the moment the Old Town area cannot cope with the ammount of traffic that hits us in the summer as it is, the roads come to a standstill on a daily basis. Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.
thats why we need the monorail!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: derek, dorset on 3:15pm Tue 13 Nov 07
5 miles south of portland would be an ideal site
5 miles south of portland would be an ideal site
Posted by: tont on 3:21pm Tue 13 Nov 07
I love it I hope we get KFC, or Macdonalds, or a mobile chippie, even all three, mouth watering thoughts yumm! yummy! garlic bread !mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I love it I hope we get KFC, or Macdonalds, or a mobile chippie, even all three, mouth watering thoughts yumm! yummy! garlic bread !mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by: JIFFY, POOLE on 3:26pm Tue 13 Nov 07
What sort of lunatic would consider this rubbish anything but a complete waste of money. Art & the arts in general in Poole are a joke at the best of times [remember the Lighthouse is closed more often than it's open - good use of money!] The elected members should stand up for the people of Poole and not be fooled by 'high art'. I seem to remember something about the Kings clothes.
What sort of lunatic would consider this rubbish anything but a complete waste of money. Art & the arts in general in Poole are a joke at the best of times The elected members should stand up for the people of Poole and not be fooled by 'high art'. I seem to remember something about the Kings clothes.
Posted by: Tru Belle, purbeck on 3:49pm Tue 13 Nov 07
What's wrong with OLD HARRY and the bay and the Purbecks, and a mile plus of the most beautiful sand ever, what is wrong with the harbour and the innovative roundabouts. think hard councillors, please please leave this Tutankhamun icon to those in the Midlands. We wave by bye to the tourists at the end of the season, but once this appalling piece of nonsense is in situ, you will never be able to wave by bye to that.
What's wrong with OLD HARRY and the bay and the Purbecks, and a mile plus of the most beautiful sand ever, what is wrong with the harbour and the innovative roundabouts. think hard councillors, please please leave this Tutankhamun icon to those in the Midlands. We wave by bye to the tourists at the end of the season, but once this appalling piece of nonsense is in situ, you will never be able to wave by bye to that.
Posted by: E.L.M., Dorset on 4:10pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote:
Poole's IMAX?[/quote] How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
Poole's IMAX?
How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 4:51pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]E.L.M.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote:
Poole's IMAX?[/quote] How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.[/quote] eyesore eyesore eyesore. thats what we all mean.
E.L.M. wrote:
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
Poole's IMAX?
How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.
eyesore eyesore eyesore. thats what we all mean.
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 4:52pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]E.L.M.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote:
Poole's IMAX?[/quote] How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.[/quote] eyesore eyesore eyesore. thats what we all mean.
E.L.M. wrote:
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
Poole's IMAX?
How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.
eyesore eyesore eyesore. thats what we all mean.
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 4:53pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]E.L.M.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote:
Poole's IMAX?[/quote] How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.[/quote] eyesore eyesore eyesore. thats what we all mean.
E.L.M. wrote:
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
Poole's IMAX?
How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.
eyesore eyesore eyesore. thats what we all mean.
Posted by: John, Poole on 5:01pm Tue 13 Nov 07
IMAX blocked out beautiful views across to the Purbecks, as will this structure. It
also helped to bring about the downfall of the [bold]short-sighted [/bold] Councillors who proposed it, and hopefully this pyramid will do the same in Poole.
IMAX blocked out beautiful views across to the Purbecks, as will this structure. It
also helped to bring about the downfall of the
short-sighted Councillors who proposed it, and hopefully this pyramid will do the same in Poole.
Posted by: Roy, King's Bere on 5:09pm Tue 13 Nov 07
This has the potential to be a great piece of architecture. Also its about 2km east of 0° longitude, what a perfect and ideal place to put it.
Build It!!!
This has the potential to be a great piece of architecture. Also its about 2km east of 0° longitude, what a perfect and ideal place to put it.
Build It!!!
Posted by: accountability, Chichester on 5:43pm Tue 13 Nov 07
If Poole has to 'invest' in a structure then choose something to be proud of like the 630ft gateway arch in St Louis USA which looks brilliant from every angle. As it is slim and high it does not put a blot on the landscape and has a viewing room at the top which give fantastic views of the area. Tourists visit the area just for that. wwww.gatewayarch.com
If Poole has to 'invest' in a structure then choose something to be proud of like the 630ft gateway arch in St Louis USA which looks brilliant from every angle. As it is slim and high it does not put a blot on the landscape and has a viewing room at the top which give fantastic views of the area. Tourists visit the area just for that. wwww.gatewayarch.com
Posted by: geof, charminster on 5:52pm Tue 13 Nov 07
I am old enough to remember when 'Ladies Walking Field' was taken from the people of Poole to build the bus station and shopping /sports centre complex. With the promise of Baiter Park being created in exchange, since then Baiter has been slowly eroded by various schemes making access almost impossible in the summer for visitors and residents alike. Lets keep what's left for open space and not for whackey ideas!
I am old enough to remember when 'Ladies Walking Field' was taken from the people of Poole to build the bus station and shopping /sports centre complex. With the promise of Baiter Park being created in exchange, since then Baiter has been slowly eroded by various schemes making access almost impossible in the summer for visitors and residents alike. Lets keep what's left for open space and not for whackey ideas!
Posted by: Trevor Robbins, Poole on 6:25pm Tue 13 Nov 07
This idea looks horrendous,and for councilor Brian Leverett to say that he is in favor of the scheme, must certainly mean he needs be certified and removed from the leadership of the council.
This idea looks horrendous,and for councilor Brian Leverett to say that he is in favor of the scheme, must certainly mean he needs be certified and removed from the leadership of the council.
Posted by: Tru Belle, purbeck on 6:31pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Money to burn eh, so what has happened to the spectacular plans for a new bridge?
If there is money to burn , how about ploughing it back into much needed bus services etc?
What a lot of NEW AGE TRENDY rubbish, this idea is a lunatic as palm trees and as bad as the semi quaver on Poole quay !!
Money to burn eh, so what has happened to the spectacular plans for a new bridge?
If there is money to burn , how about ploughing it back into much needed bus services etc?
What a lot of NEW AGE TRENDY rubbish, this idea is a lunatic as palm trees and as bad as the semi quaver on Poole quay !!
Posted by: Charlie on 6:32pm Tue 13 Nov 07
"Please note that the Cabinet agreed last Tuesday to spend a significant sum of money in investigating this eyesore - I'm not allowed to tell you how much because its confidential!!!"
And whose money have they agreed to spend? Ours!!!!
When will they remember that the council has no money of its own - it all been collected from us. Of course, they'll have to cut the budget for other services like for the elderly and vulnerable - this is far more inmportant.
"Please note that the Cabinet agreed last Tuesday to spend a significant sum of money in investigating this eyesore - I'm not allowed to tell you how much because its confidential!!!"
And whose money have they agreed to spend? Ours!!!!
When will they remember that the council has no money of its own - it all been collected from us. Of course, they'll have to cut the budget for other services like for the elderly and vulnerable - this is far more inmportant.
Posted by: G N Leader, Hamworthy on 6:36pm Tue 13 Nov 07
We are already getting an expensive work of art with the 'Twin Sails Bridge' Visitors will be able to admire that while waiting for it to open.
Benjamin, Hamworthy.
We are already getting an expensive work of art with the 'Twin Sails Bridge' Visitors will be able to admire that while waiting for it to open.
Benjamin, Hamworthy.
Posted by: Vikki27, Poole on 7:07pm Tue 13 Nov 07
I'm just a tad confused by this and I would very much like to pose some questions to Councellor Leverett and see if he can provide us with some honest information.
1) From what source is the money being taken to fund this venture?
2) He says that early reactions have been very positive. Whose reactions are these and what percentage of people these people have supported the decision?
3) Were the people who supported the decision informed where the sundial is to be placed or were they merely asked whether it would be nice to put it in Poole?
3) How have they estimated this figure of 400,000 visitors per annum?
The bottom line of this is that although I'm sure it could be an attractive piece of artwork, it is ludicrous to destroy a large portion of much used and appreciated land to erect a monument that has been offered second-hand, following rejection from somewhere else.
I wonder when the people who make these decisions will think with their hearts instead of their wallets and see the natural beauty around them rather than what they can make from it?
And I also would like to know how it is that if they have all this apparently disposable extra money (our money), they are not using it to fund things the town has been crying out for for a long time?
I'm just a tad confused by this and I would very much like to pose some questions to Councellor Leverett and see if he can provide us with some honest information.
1) From what source is the money being taken to fund this venture?
2) He says that early reactions have been very positive. Whose reactions are these and what percentage of people these people have supported the decision?
3) Were the people who supported the decision informed where the sundial is to be placed or were they merely asked whether it would be nice to put it in Poole?
3) How have they estimated this figure of 400,000 visitors per annum?
The bottom line of this is that although I'm sure it could be an attractive piece of artwork, it is ludicrous to destroy a large portion of much used and appreciated land to erect a monument that has been offered second-hand, following rejection from somewhere else.
I wonder when the people who make these decisions will think with their hearts instead of their wallets and see the natural beauty around them rather than what they can make from it?
And I also would like to know how it is that if they have all this apparently disposable extra money (our money), they are not using it to fund things the town has been crying out for for a long time?
Posted by: The-bleeding-obvious, Bournemouth on 7:48pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Its certainly a mystery ok...why our public servants are even contemplating this folly. Placing a pile of junk on baiter point or anywhere else in the town just confirms how out of touch these negative IQ jumped-up jobsworths are!
Its certainly a mystery ok...why our public servants are even contemplating this folly. Placing a pile of junk on baiter point or anywhere else in the town just confirms how out of touch these negative IQ jumped-up jobsworths are!
Posted by: PokesdownMark, Pokesdown on 8:00pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]philip.eades[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps Cllr Brian Leverett will read these objections seriously and not treat them with contempt as he did my representation to last weeks secret Cabinet meeting which told him what the public reaction would be - a failed project from another location to be placed on one of Poole's most beautiful pieces of public open space spoiling both public and private views of the Harbour, Brownsea, the Purbecks and Sandbanks creating traffic and parking horrors and costing the Council fortunes
Please note that the Cabinet agreed last Tuesday to spend a significant sum of money in investigating this eyesore - I'm not allowed to tell you how much because its confidential!!!
Cllr Philip Eades[/quote] Very well done for speaking out.
This figure should not be confidential. What is the justification for the secrecy? It is our money they are spending - well I'm in Bournemouth so it isn't... but you know what I mean!
Down with council secrecy! Lets have transparent accounting now!
philip.eades wrote:
Perhaps Cllr Brian Leverett will read these objections seriously and not treat them with contempt as he did my representation to last weeks secret Cabinet meeting which told him what the public reaction would be - a failed project from another location to be placed on one of Poole's most beautiful pieces of public open space spoiling both public and private views of the Harbour, Brownsea, the Purbecks and Sandbanks creating traffic and parking horrors and costing the Council fortunes
Please note that the Cabinet agreed last Tuesday to spend a significant sum of money in investigating this eyesore - I'm not allowed to tell you how much because its confidential!!!
Cllr Philip Eades
Very well done for speaking out.
This figure should not be confidential. What is the justification for the secrecy? It is our money they are spending - well I'm in Bournemouth so it isn't... but you know what I mean!
Down with council secrecy! Lets have transparent accounting now!
Posted by: jobsworthwatch, Bournemouth on 8:24pm Tue 13 Nov 07
I cant believe that our councillors are considering putting a pile of scrap in one of Pooles most popular open spaces.
I cant believe that our councillors are considering putting a pile of scrap in one of Pooles most popular open spaces.
Posted by: airbus, parkstone on 8:52pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Dont knock this new atraction yet if you look at the shape of the uprights.If it becomes an eyesoar the shape is not far off the roadway of the sail bridge,just a few adjustments here and there and bingo a part of the new bridge.
Dont knock this new atraction yet if you look at the shape of the uprights.If it becomes an eyesoar the shape is not far off the roadway of the sail bridge,just a few adjustments here and there and bingo a part of the new bridge.
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 8:56pm Tue 13 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Very Old Man[/bold] wrote:
Another 400,000 visitors a year? At the moment the Old Town area cannot cope with the ammount of traffic that hits us in the summer as it is, the roads come to a standstill on a daily basis.
Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.[/quote] A very good point,i do not think the roads can take it.
Very Old Man wrote:
Another 400,000 visitors a year? At the moment the Old Town area cannot cope with the ammount of traffic that hits us in the summer as it is, the roads come to a standstill on a daily basis.
Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.
A very good point,i do not think the roads can take it.
Posted by: ctessex, London on 11:50pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Nothing wrong with building a bold piece of art but I do not think it is appropriate for the location and doubt it would be sufficiently worthy to encourage tourists or locals. A tower has been done elsewhere so little point copying that but a sundial, despite the belief that Poole basks in it for so long, is a bit of a white elephant. Baiter offers enough natural beauty. Why are they not planning to use the power station area or Holes Bay area. Make it a gateway feature behind the views rather than something in competition with them. Furthermore, makeit something more interactive with a chance to draw more people to the town. Such a shame the Spinnaker Tower is in Portsmouth. Placing it in Poole to offer views to the Purbecks and over the harbour to rival Constitution Hill would have been nice. I think people should welcome the idea but offer a constructive opinion as to the style and location of an alternative.
Nothing wrong with building a bold piece of art but I do not think it is appropriate for the location and doubt it would be sufficiently worthy to encourage tourists or locals. A tower has been done elsewhere so little point copying that but a sundial, despite the belief that Poole basks in it for so long, is a bit of a white elephant. Baiter offers enough natural beauty. Why are they not planning to use the power station area or Holes Bay area. Make it a gateway feature behind the views rather than something in competition with them. Furthermore, makeit something more interactive with a chance to draw more people to the town. Such a shame the Spinnaker Tower is in Portsmouth. Placing it in Poole to offer views to the Purbecks and over the harbour to rival Constitution Hill would have been nice. I think people should welcome the idea but offer a constructive opinion as to the style and location of an alternative.
Posted by: Mike Pickering, Bournemouth on 5:22am Wed 14 Nov 07
Well, I for one think it would be a great idea.
If I managed to get a spare hour and took a stroll down to baiter, and if the sun was out, by simply observing the 200 foot 'hour hand' of the shadow I could make an accurate record of the time that dog owners were allowing their dogs to foul the footpaths and grass.
Would it need to be on some kind of huge pivoting mechanism so it could be wound back for British Summer Time ?
Well, I for one think it would be a great idea.
If I managed to get a spare hour and took a stroll down to baiter, and if the sun was out, by simply observing the 200 foot 'hour hand' of the shadow I could make an accurate record of the time that dog owners were allowing their dogs to foul the footpaths and grass.
Would it need to be on some kind of huge pivoting mechanism so it could be wound back for British Summer Time ?
Posted by: johnathan livingston seagull, wallisdown on 7:29am Wed 14 Nov 07
where are these 4000000 visitors coming from and why would anyone set out to see this thing except in passing ? someone is doing a good selling job to fill their pockets and getting us to swallow this load of old bu**sh*t .as many have said just go and view the natural beauty of that area ,it needs nothing to enhance the view ,it is quite stunning
where are these 4000000 visitors coming from and why would anyone set out to see this thing except in passing ? someone is doing a good selling job to fill their pockets and getting us to swallow this load of old bu**sh*t .as many have said just go and view the natural beauty of that area ,it needs nothing to enhance the view ,it is quite stunning
Posted by: johnathan livingston seagull, wallisdown on 7:33am Wed 14 Nov 07
didnt mean 4000000 visitors but its a pie in the sky figure anyway so why worry ....8000 visitors a week ,every week ....what rubbish
didnt mean 4000000 visitors but its a pie in the sky figure anyway so why worry ....8000 visitors a week ,every week ....what rubbish
Posted by: MEA on 7:35am Wed 14 Nov 07
[quote][bold]johnathan livingston seagull[/bold] wrote:
oh - cant wait................ ..,excitement coursing through my body. huh [/quote] Baiter Park is not the right place for such a tall art piece. Please do not let our views of the harbour be spoilt. We have already had to put up with the monster look-out tower on the quay, which blocks your view when approaching the quay from the High Street.
johnathan livingston seagull wrote:
oh - cant wait................ ..,excitement coursing through my body. huh
Baiter Park is not the right place for such a tall art piece. Please do not let our views of the harbour be spoilt. We have already had to put up with the monster look-out tower on the quay, which blocks your view when approaching the quay from the High Street.
Posted by: johnathan livingston seagull, wallisdown on 7:42am Wed 14 Nov 07
[quote][bold]MEA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]johnathan livingston seagull[/bold] wrote: oh - cant wait................ ..,excitement coursing through my body. huh [/quote] Baiter Park is not the right place for such a tall art piece. Please do not let our views of the harbour be spoilt. We have already had to put up with the monster look-out tower on the quay, which blocks your view when approaching the quay from the High Street. [/quote] please please ...i am not in favour of it .
MEA wrote:
johnathan livingston seagull wrote: oh - cant wait................ ..,excitement coursing through my body. huh
Baiter Park is not the right place for such a tall art piece. Please do not let our views of the harbour be spoilt. We have already had to put up with the monster look-out tower on the quay, which blocks your view when approaching the quay from the High Street.
please please ...i am not in favour of it .
Posted by: Ham, Poole on 8:51am Wed 14 Nov 07
You have got to be kidding, this seems to be a complete waste of 'time' and money. Poole doesn't need an eyesore like Portsmouth has.
Portsmouth tower is set in a new large development and therefore it was appropriate to have a new focal point. Just a shame about the design.
The Angel of the north is set in an open space and is a piece of stand alone art.
This monstrosity has been been designed; as you can see by the graphics to sit in an open space and to be viewed from a distance (a long, long distance). I would suggest that they leave it in Derbishire and we can be happy with the view we have of it from here.
Regarding the open space of the park, I believe that the people of Poole are concerned about development taking their open space. Our council is constantly fighting developers over open space and even charge an open space contribution under their Planning Policy for some developments. Why fill the open space of Baiter park with this "art work" when there is such a struggle for the council to retain open space. This sounds crazy!
In conclusion, this sculpture is not specifically designed for Poole and Baiter park, it is a second hand, hand me down that people don't want in Derbyshire. It seems whoever conceived it in Derbyshire and spent all that hard earned tax payers money doesn't want to face the embarrassment of their mistake and would like to off load it on us.
p.s. In case I didn't make myself clear I strongly object to the proposal. Please don't waste any more of our hard earned tax money even considering it for Poole.
You have got to be kidding, this seems to be a complete waste of 'time' and money. Poole doesn't need an eyesore like Portsmouth has.
Portsmouth tower is set in a new large development and therefore it was appropriate to have a new focal point. Just a shame about the design.
The Angel of the north is set in an open space and is a piece of stand alone art.
This monstrosity has been been designed; as you can see by the graphics to sit in an open space and to be viewed from a distance (a long, long distance). I would suggest that they leave it in Derbishire and we can be happy with the view we have of it from here.
Regarding the open space of the park, I believe that the people of Poole are concerned about development taking their open space. Our council is constantly fighting developers over open space and even charge an open space contribution under their Planning Policy for some developments. Why fill the open space of Baiter park with this "art work" when there is such a struggle for the council to retain open space. This sounds crazy!
In conclusion, this sculpture is not specifically designed for Poole and Baiter park, it is a second hand, hand me down that people don't want in Derbyshire. It seems whoever conceived it in Derbyshire and spent all that hard earned tax payers money doesn't want to face the embarrassment of their mistake and would like to off load it on us.
p.s. In case I didn't make myself clear I strongly object to the proposal. Please don't waste any more of our hard earned tax money even considering it for Poole.
Posted by: tont on 9:47am Wed 14 Nov 07
Bungee Jumping lovely descent nice views ,once its been painted camouflage, it will be unoticeable from miles away, cant wait for skool hols
Bungee Jumping lovely descent nice views ,once its been painted camouflage, it will be unoticeable from miles away, cant wait for skool hols
Posted by: E.L.M., Dorset on 11:33am Wed 14 Nov 07
[quote][bold]John[/bold] wrote:
IMAX blocked out beautiful views across to the Purbecks, as will this structure. It also helped to bring about the downfall of the [bold]short-sighted [/bold] Councillors who proposed it, and hopefully this pyramid will do the same in Poole.[/quote] Only if you stand behind it and dont move,as with the Imax,the views are still there.
John wrote:
IMAX blocked out beautiful views across to the Purbecks, as will this structure. It also helped to bring about the downfall of the short-sighted Councillors who proposed it, and hopefully this pyramid will do the same in Poole.
Only if you stand behind it and dont move,as with the Imax,the views are still there.
Posted by: denis, bournemouth on 11:40am Wed 14 Nov 07
If this monstrosity is allowed to be built on Baiter, it will take away a large part of a well used public open space and for what reason, to satisfy an architect's dream.
Wake up Poole Council listen to what people are telling you !!!
If this monstrosity is allowed to be built on Baiter, it will take away a large part of a well used public open space and for what reason, to satisfy an architect's dream.
Wake up Poole Council listen to what people are telling you !!!
Posted by: HEATHER, POOLE on 12:41pm Wed 14 Nov 07
Had the Spinnaker Tower been propsed in Poole then it would never have been built, it is now one of the biggest attractions on teh South Coast and really quite beautiful. he Poole Bay residents association are anti everything that is new and different as are most of the people in Poole. The potential is Poole Bay is not being fully utilised, it would be a lovely exciting and interesting addition to the area.
Had the Spinnaker Tower been propsed in Poole then it would never have been built, it is now one of the biggest attractions on teh South Coast and really quite beautiful. he Poole Bay residents association are anti everything that is new and different as are most of the people in Poole. The potential is Poole Bay is not being fully utilised, it would be a lovely exciting and interesting addition to the area.
Posted by: jonnie s, bournemouth on 1:23pm Wed 14 Nov 07
Like i say most of you seem adverse to change of any kind. Wake up this is the future, without vision we are relegating ourselves to a 1950's vision of a seaside town - you lot would probably prefer that, even if it meant a slow decline but what do you care, most of you are retired and don't want to change the status quo.
Like i say most of you seem adverse to change of any kind. Wake up this is the future, without vision we are relegating ourselves to a 1950's vision of a seaside town - you lot would probably prefer that, even if it meant a slow decline but what do you care, most of you are retired and don't want to change the status quo.
Posted by: ColinLambert, Parkstone on 2:04pm Wed 14 Nov 07
John Mc Enroe once said................
.. "YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS".
Is it April the first already??
I suggest Poole Councillors take some time to read the comments from readers of the Echo so that you may understand how misguided this plan is and change your comments before the whole thing makes a complete laughing stock out of Poole Council.
Hopefully ITV will once again take the opportunity to show the country how misguided some of the local decisions are here in Poole, this time BEFORE it happens.
As a life long 'True Blue' Conservative, this is enough to make me vote Liberal next time. Cllr Eades seems to be the only voice of sanity in a mad world (or at least a mad Council chamber!)
John Mc Enroe once said................
.. "YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS".
Is it April the first already??
I suggest Poole Councillors take some time to read the comments from readers of the Echo so that you may understand how misguided this plan is and change your comments before the whole thing makes a complete laughing stock out of Poole Council.
Hopefully ITV will once again take the opportunity to show the country how misguided some of the local decisions are here in Poole, this time BEFORE it happens.
As a life long 'True Blue' Conservative, this is enough to make me vote Liberal next time. Cllr Eades seems to be the only voice of sanity in a mad world (or at least a mad Council chamber!)
Posted by: Sidney, London on 2:37pm Wed 14 Nov 07
Haha, I love watching people get riled up about this sh*t. But, yeah, it would be an eyesore.
Haha, I love watching people get riled up about this sh*t. But, yeah, it would be an eyesore.
Posted by: Tru Belle, purbeck on 3:38pm Wed 14 Nov 07
It would be like maintaining the[bold] Forth[/bold] bridge, never ending.
Keep it in Derbyshire where life is pretty barren anyway. We have our own beautiful uninterrupted views across the magnificant bay. Any way looking across from here up in the Purbecks , it will look as disgusting as [bold]the hundreds of blocks of flats[/bold] that are being built/have been built in Poole.
[bold]Read my lips Poole is on overload, look around you, and council, just wise up, it is our Dorset too[/bold]
It would be like maintaining the
Forth bridge, never ending.
Keep it in Derbyshire where life is pretty barren anyway. We have our own beautiful uninterrupted views across the magnificant bay. Any way looking across from here up in the Purbecks , it will look as disgusting as
the hundreds of blocks of flats that are being built/have been built in Poole.
Read my lips Poole is on overload, look around you, and council, just wise up, it is our Dorset too Posted by: E.L.M., Dorset on 4:16pm Wed 14 Nov 07
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 4:50pm Wed 14 Nov 07
[quote][bold]E.L.M.[/bold] wrote:
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!![/quote] PATHETIC RAMBLING.SAYS NOTHING.
E.L.M. wrote:
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
PATHETIC RAMBLING.SAYS NOTHING.
Posted by: tont on 5:12pm Wed 14 Nov 07
[quote][bold]E.L.M.[/bold] wrote:
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!![/quote] So you put yer glsss's on then, bless!!! its easy to forget at your age, my nanna does it all the time,
E.L.M. wrote:
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
So you put yer glsss's on then, bless!!! its easy to forget at your age, my nanna does it all the time,
Posted by: accountability, Chichester on 5:34pm Wed 14 Nov 07
[quote][bold]E.L.M.[/bold] wrote:
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!![/quote] I hope you weren't doing anything you shouldn't behind the kiosk.....!
E.L.M. wrote:
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
I hope you weren't doing anything you shouldn't behind the kiosk.....!
Posted by: Vikki27, Poole on 5:45pm Wed 14 Nov 07
Sorry but what does it matter if people do want to preserve Poole? What is wrong with that? So much of the world around us has changed but there are parts of Poole that have stayed the same for centuries and I don't see what is wrong with keeping it like that.
The fact is, a lot of people, tourists included, love Poole because it has some old fashioned shops and it has it's Old Town. The park has been around for more than a century and the bridge over the railway in the high street has also been there for more than a century. The simple truth is that if it isn't broke, why fix it? Especially when it uses other people's money.
Poole IS a beautiful place and most people don't see the point of taking some of that beauty away with a second-hand piece of scrap metal that could look very beautiful somewhere else!
Sorry but what does it matter if people do want to preserve Poole? What is wrong with that? So much of the world around us has changed but there are parts of Poole that have stayed the same for centuries and I don't see what is wrong with keeping it like that.
The fact is, a lot of people, tourists included, love Poole because it has some old fashioned shops and it has it's Old Town. The park has been around for more than a century and the bridge over the railway in the high street has also been there for more than a century. The simple truth is that if it isn't broke, why fix it? Especially when it uses other people's money.
Poole IS a beautiful place and most people don't see the point of taking some of that beauty away with a second-hand piece of scrap metal that could look very beautiful somewhere else!
Posted by: John, Poole on 6:04pm Wed 14 Nov 07
[quote][bold]E.L.M.[/bold] wrote:
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!![/quote] It's amazing that you could see the wood for the trees,E.L.M.,
because you seem as thick as two short planks!!
E.L.M. wrote:
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
It's amazing that you could see the wood for the trees,E.L.M.,
because you seem as thick as two short planks!!
Posted by: red panda on 7:13pm Wed 14 Nov 07
So they want to take another open space that is well used all the year round away from the people of Poole. I am a regular user of Baiter and agree it would spoil the view we have across the harbour and the islands. It is a waste of the tax payers money and as someone else put it a hand me down from somewhere else that did not want it. When is there going to be a public consultation on it? What about using the money on things like better facilities in schools or better recreational facilities. I for one think it will be a hideous eyesore that will be in the same vein as the iron monstrosity on the quay. Give the people of Poole a chance to speak.
So they want to take another open space that is well used all the year round away from the people of Poole. I am a regular user of Baiter and agree it would spoil the view we have across the harbour and the islands. It is a waste of the tax payers money and as someone else put it a hand me down from somewhere else that did not want it. When is there going to be a public consultation on it? What about using the money on things like better facilities in schools or better recreational facilities. I for one think it will be a hideous eyesore that will be in the same vein as the iron monstrosity on the quay. Give the people of Poole a chance to speak.
Posted by: not, purbeck on 7:21pm Wed 14 Nov 07
Sorry, I just don't get it. Why would anyone want it?
Sorry, I just don't get it. Why would anyone want it?
Posted by: Fonty Booth on 7:24pm Wed 14 Nov 07
[quote][bold]accountability[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]E.L.M.[/bold] wrote: Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!![/quote] I hope you weren't doing anything you shouldn't behind the kiosk.....! [/quote] Its parents to blame here, should have stopped this habit years ago, every body knows it sends you blind.
accountability wrote:
E.L.M. wrote: Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
I hope you weren't doing anything you shouldn't behind the kiosk.....!
Its parents to blame here, should have stopped this habit years ago, every body knows it sends you blind.
Posted by: PBA, Whitecliff, POOLE on 7:31pm Wed 14 Nov 07
The Parkstone Bay Association battled in the 1970's against our council's plan to build a major road across the green open spaces of Baiter & Whitecliff.We are now faced with another battle, again against our own council,[bold]bold[/bold] to retain the quiet peacefull open spaces of Baiter & Whitecliff Recreation Ground this time from commercial development. We request that anyone who is willing to state that they have used Baiter & Whitecliff Recreation Ground for over 20 years is requested to contact the association at pba@petersteer.screa
ming.net
The Parkstone Bay Association battled in the 1970's against our council's plan to build a major road across the green open spaces of Baiter & Whitecliff.We are now faced with another battle, again against our own council, to retain the quiet peacefull open spaces of Baiter & Whitecliff Recreation Ground this time from commercial development. We request that anyone who is willing to state that they have used Baiter & Whitecliff Recreation Ground for over 20 years is requested to contact the association at pba@petersteer.screa
ming.net
Posted by: Tru Belle, purbeck on 9:21pm Wed 14 Nov 07
Does the coastguard know about this?
Doesn't the helicopter land there to disgorge divers or any one else seriously injured?
I think everyone must get very noisy about this disgraceful waste of tax payers money- Tell Derbyshire to ask for it to be deposited in Parliament square, see what reaction that brings!! Seriously get really noisy about this issue, letters help but actions speak louder than words. you can borrow some Purbeck tractors if you want!
Does the coastguard know about this?
Doesn't the helicopter land there to disgorge divers or any one else seriously injured?
I think everyone must get very noisy about this disgraceful waste of tax payers money- Tell Derbyshire to ask for it to be deposited in Parliament square, see what reaction that brings!! Seriously get really noisy about this issue, letters help but actions speak louder than words. you can borrow some Purbeck tractors if you want!
Posted by: John, Poole on 9:21pm Wed 14 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Fonty Booth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]accountability[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]E.L.M.[/bold] wrote: Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!![/quote] I hope you weren't doing anything you shouldn't behind the kiosk.....! [/quote] Its parents to blame here, should have stopped this habit years ago, every body knows it sends you blind.[/quote] Perhaps, this is why our Councillors are so short-sighted!!
Fonty Booth wrote:
accountability wrote: E.L.M. wrote: Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
I hope you weren't doing anything you shouldn't behind the kiosk.....!
Its parents to blame here, should have stopped this habit years ago, every body knows it sends you blind.
Perhaps, this is why our Councillors are so short-sighted!!
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 9:41pm Wed 14 Nov 07
AS mr and mrs peace from west moors,are in favour of it,let it go to west moors,i bet they would soon change their minds if 400,000 visitors came into their area.
AS mr and mrs peace from west moors,are in favour of it,let it go to west moors,i bet they would soon change their minds if 400,000 visitors came into their area.
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 9:43pm Wed 14 Nov 07
AS mr and mrs peace from west moors,are in favour of it,let it go to west moors,i bet they would soon change their minds if 400,000 visitors came into their area.
AS mr and mrs peace from west moors,are in favour of it,let it go to west moors,i bet they would soon change their minds if 400,000 visitors came into their area.
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 9:45pm Wed 14 Nov 07
AS mr and mrs peace from west moors,are in favour of it,let it go to west moors,i bet they would soon change their minds if 400,000 visitors came into their area.
AS mr and mrs peace from west moors,are in favour of it,let it go to west moors,i bet they would soon change their minds if 400,000 visitors came into their area.
Posted by: snowhite, Poole on 11:42pm Wed 14 Nov 07
The slogan on Poole advertising used to be"it's a beautiful place". If this monstrosity goes ahead that will never be true again.
The slogan on Poole advertising used to be"it's a beautiful place". If this monstrosity goes ahead that will never be true again.
Posted by: John, Poole on 7:40am Thu 15 Nov 07
The related website www.solarpyramid.co.
uk/ reads only that 'the new Solar Pyramid site will be launched on Wednesday the 5th of December.'
Me Sphinx there may be more bright ideas to come.
I cannot understand the riddle as to why Cllr. Leverett is so keen on this project.Perhaps all the secrets will be revealed in due course.Me Sphinx Not!!
The related website www.solarpyramid.co.
uk/ reads only that 'the new Solar Pyramid site will be launched on Wednesday the 5th of December.'
Me Sphinx there may be more bright ideas to come.
I cannot understand the riddle as to why Cllr. Leverett is so keen on this project.Perhaps all the secrets will be revealed in due course.Me Sphinx Not!!
Posted by: Tru Belle, purbeck on 8:49am Thu 15 Nov 07
Good advert for razor blades--sponsored by say Gillette or Wilkinson Sword- Are Poole completely stupid. I suppose the BSO can practise underneath, combining real art with crass idiocy--
Good advert for razor blades--sponsored by say Gillette or Wilkinson Sword- Are Poole completely stupid. I suppose the BSO can practise underneath, combining real art with crass idiocy--
Posted by: Charlie on 9:47am Thu 15 Nov 07
"It has the support of the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, and the high-tech sundial aims to create a moving demonstration of the link between time and space and the power of the sun on everyday life."
Then site it at the Royal Observatory at Greenwich!
"It has the support of the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, and the high-tech sundial aims to create a moving demonstration of the link between time and space and the power of the sun on everyday life."
Then site it at the Royal Observatory at Greenwich!
Posted by: geoffreysolomon, Poole on 10:12am Thu 15 Nov
