A GROUP of mums staged a protest at a McDonald's branch after one of them was ordered to leave for breastfeeding her baby.
Nursery nurse Maddie Reynolds, 27, of Stanfield Road, Winton, popped into the McDonald's at Asda Castlepoint two weeks ago, after she had been shopping and began feeding 10-week-old Sophie.
But she was shocked when a McDonald's manager approached her, told her to stop and then ordered her to leave when she refused.
When Maddie told other mums they decided to go en masse to McDonald's and breastfeed their babies in the café as a protest.
The visit yesterday, however, passed off without incident and McDonald's shift manager Jay Harris reassured the Echo that mums were welcome to breastfeed in the restaurant.
The company has since apologised and said it was "shocked" by its employee's actions two weeks ago.
Maddie said: "We just want to prove a point. I was at McDonald's a couple of weeks ago and was breastfeeding and I was asked to stop doing it by a McDonald's member of staff.
"He asked me to stop and I said no'. He then said Will you please leave?' and I refused and carried on. He stood and watched me for a few minutes and went away. I was quite upset but I wasn't prepared to leave."
Fellow protester Catherine Davis, 19, of Alma Road, Winton, mum to seven-week-old Amelia, said: "I just thought it was disgusting. It's the most natural thing to feed your baby and there's nothing wrong with it.
"Everyone says breast is best'. I have breastfed in public and no-one ever has ever said anything to me. I think it's fine as long as you're discreet."
Nicky Clark, of Lakeside, Ringwood, said: "My son is five months old and I am still feeding him. No-one has ever said anything to me. There's no reason why people shouldn't be able to breastfeed."
Alison Purves, spokesperson for McDonald's, said breastfeeding mums were welcomed in its restaurants.
She said: "This manager was working unilaterally and not following company policy at all. We are very disgusted and shocked by his actions and we would like to apologise to the customer.
"If another customer ever expressed their discomfort about breastfeeding we would encourage them to move rather than the mum.
A picnic in Bournemouth Lower Gardens to highlight the campaign to give mums the right to breastfeed in public places takes place from 12 noon to 4pm on Monday (July 21).
7:00am Friday 18th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: dannyboy01, poole on 8:22am Fri 18 Jul 08
mmm! it used to be a natural thing to let your kids play in the street without having to worry, i also used to be able to buy a pack of polos for 10p, my point is society and the way we live has changed alot ova the last decade and some people just cant accept that it is natural to breast feed in public, just like if a bloke was to walk round scratchin his privates its natural to scratch but people cant adapt to it
mmm! it used to be a natural thing to let your kids play in the street without having to worry, i also used to be able to buy a pack of polos for 10p, my point is society and the way we live has changed alot ova the last decade and some people just cant accept that it is natural to breast feed in public, just like if a bloke was to walk round scratchin his privates its natural to scratch but people cant adapt to it
Posted by: anton, uk on 8:34am Fri 18 Jul 08
What I can't understand is why a new mum would want to visit McDonalds in the first place. The putrid fatty slop they serve up is not going to be a healthy food to pass to your baby.
What I can't understand is why a new mum would want to visit McDonalds in the first place. The putrid fatty slop they serve up is not going to be a healthy food to pass to your baby.
Posted by: derek, dorset on 8:38am Fri 18 Jul 08
Good luck to them ,
Brings a new meaning to a "happy meal"
Good luck to them ,
Brings a new meaning to a "happy meal"
Posted by: Jayteer, Bournemouth on 8:43am Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]anton[/bold] wrote:
What I can't understand is why a new mum would want to visit McDonalds in the first place. The putrid fatty slop they serve up is not going to be a healthy food to pass to your baby. [/quote] It doesnt actually state that she was eating in mcdonalds, it just says she went into mcdonalds to breast feed: My guess is the mum just wanted to sit down for 10 minutes in the only seating area in Asda, so she can see her child was nourished.
Shame on the mcdonalds staff member- they really should have known better. However, the company has held its hands up and has apologised for its mistake- And for me that means a lot when a company admits publicly it or one of its employees has done wrong.
Well done mcdonalds.
anton wrote:
What I can't understand is why a new mum would want to visit McDonalds in the first place. The putrid fatty slop they serve up is not going to be a healthy food to pass to your baby.
It doesnt actually state that she was eating in mcdonalds, it just says she went into mcdonalds to breast feed: My guess is the mum just wanted to sit down for 10 minutes in the only seating area in Asda, so she can see her child was nourished.
Shame on the mcdonalds staff member- they really should have known better. However, the company has held its hands up and has apologised for its mistake- And for me that means a lot when a company admits publicly it or one of its employees has done wrong.
Well done mcdonalds.
Posted by: gunters goonies, christchurch on 9:31am Fri 18 Jul 08
Probably a worker from another country, who feels breast feeding is not allowed to be done in public. I always thought there were plenty of Baps at mcdonalds.....
Probably a worker from another country, who feels breast feeding is not allowed to be done in public. I always thought there were plenty of Baps at mcdonalds.....
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 10:11am Fri 18 Jul 08
Maccy Ds will not be invited next Monday to hand out the free burgers and drinks.
Another eating establishment who does not allow babies to feed. Get switched on MacDonalds, it is their right to breast feed.
Maccy Ds will not be invited next Monday to hand out the free burgers and drinks.
Another eating establishment who does not allow babies to feed. Get switched on MacDonalds, it is their right to breast feed.
Posted by: Emulated, Bournemouth on 10:16am Fri 18 Jul 08
The Echo censors removed my previous post so here it is.
I can't think why anyone goes to McDonalds. Cheap food, poor wages. Why support such places?
The Echo censors removed my previous post so here it is.
I can't think why anyone goes to McDonalds. Cheap food, poor wages. Why support such places?
Posted by: theoldun, Christchurch on 10:30am Fri 18 Jul 08
I have no objection to mothers discreetly breast feeding their children in public if they so wish. What I find slightly disturbing however is that McDonalds is a private business and if, as on this occasion,the person assumably in charge decided they did not want the mother to do so on their premises, why is this so wrong? Do they not have the right to say no? Did the lady think beforehand to check with the management that they had no objection? Would that not have been good manners? Are we not just pushing the door open wider to say that it is our right to do whatever we want where ever we are and that the business/property owner has NO right to object?
I have no objection to mothers discreetly breast feeding their children in public if they so wish. What I find slightly disturbing however is that McDonalds is a private business and if, as on this occasion,the person assumably in charge decided they did not want the mother to do so on their premises, why is this so wrong? Do they not have the right to say no? Did the lady think beforehand to check with the management that they had no objection? Would that not have been good manners? Are we not just pushing the door open wider to say that it is our right to do whatever we want where ever we are and that the business/property owner has NO right to object?
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 11:26am Fri 18 Jul 08
Jayteer,
If a mum (or anyone else) lobs up for a "sit down" in a commercial enterprise they should expect to be asked to move on!
A business, even though it sells food that is helping to block the arteries of its customers, is just that, a business!
The food being provided by the mother is a lot better than what is provided by the "Golden Arch"!
Jayteer,
If a mum (or anyone else) lobs up for a "sit down" in a commercial enterprise they should expect to be asked to move on!
A business, even though it sells food that is helping to block the arteries of its customers, is just that, a business!
The food being provided by the mother is a lot better than what is provided by the "Golden Arch"!
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 11:29am Fri 18 Jul 08
One thought,
The sight of an exposed breast excites a hungry baby more than any sex starved pervert!
One thought,
The sight of an exposed breast excites a hungry baby more than any sex starved pervert!
Posted by: Jim, Bournemouth on 11:31am Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Christopher[/bold] wrote:
Maccy Ds will not be invited next Monday to hand out the free burgers and drinks.
Another eating establishment who does not allow babies to feed. Get switched on MacDonalds, it is their right to breast feed.
[/quote] To be fair to McDonalds, they have apologised and said that their employee went against their policy. Fair play to them, case closed so far as I am concerned.
Christopher wrote:
Maccy Ds will not be invited next Monday to hand out the free burgers and drinks.
Another eating establishment who does not allow babies to feed. Get switched on MacDonalds, it is their right to breast feed.
To be fair to McDonalds, they have apologised and said that their employee went against their policy. Fair play to them, case closed so far as I am concerned.
Posted by: john, christchurch on 12:05pm Fri 18 Jul 08
while i totally agree with the actions of the mothers in echo picture,what puzzles me is if they regard it as so natural to breast feed, why as picture appears to show are they trying so hard to cover there selves,it creates the impression they are ashamed of this natural act,
while i totally agree with the actions of the mothers in echo picture,what puzzles me is if they regard it as so natural to breast feed, why as picture appears to show are they trying so hard to cover there selves,it creates the impression they are ashamed of this natural act,
Posted by: Jayteer, Bournemouth on 12:19pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]laurie marsh[/bold] wrote:
Jayteer, If a mum (or anyone else) lobs up for a "sit down" in a commercial enterprise they should expect to be asked to move on! A business, even though it sells food that is helping to block the arteries of its customers, is just that, a business! The food being provided by the mother is a lot better than what is provided by the "Golden Arch"! [/quote] laurie marsh,
it is clear from your post that you have clearly NOT read the articly in full-Its also clear that you have NO idea of the layout of the establishment either.
Mcdonalds in Castlepoint is located WITHIN the ASDA supermarket-And as such, also offers the ONLY seating available in the supermarket.
Whilst i agree with what you have said GENERALLY, your facts are wrong.
Macdonalds have clearly stated that it is AGAINST their policy to eject breastfeeding mothers and have admitted that their employee was over zealous and out of order for behaving in this way.
Secondly,The Echo (once again through bad journalism) has failed to state a crucial fact- wether she was simply sitting down to breastfeed or wether she had intentionally entered macdonalds to either drink or eat there herself.
So either way, Macdonalds had no reason to eject her- I cannot comment on their seating policy as i am not aware of it am afraid.
Although i would hazard a guess and say that seating within macdonalds is open to all supermarket users?
Anyone know?
laurie marsh wrote:
Jayteer, If a mum (or anyone else) lobs up for a "sit down" in a commercial enterprise they should expect to be asked to move on! A business, even though it sells food that is helping to block the arteries of its customers, is just that, a business! The food being provided by the mother is a lot better than what is provided by the "Golden Arch"!
laurie marsh,
it is clear from your post that you have clearly NOT read the articly in full-Its also clear that you have NO idea of the layout of the establishment either.
Mcdonalds in Castlepoint is located WITHIN the ASDA supermarket-And as such, also offers the ONLY seating available in the supermarket.
Whilst i agree with what you have said GENERALLY, your facts are wrong.
Macdonalds have clearly stated that it is AGAINST their policy to eject breastfeeding mothers and have admitted that their employee was over zealous and out of order for behaving in this way.
Secondly,The Echo (once again through bad journalism) has failed to state a crucial fact- wether she was simply sitting down to breastfeed or wether she had intentionally entered macdonalds to either drink or eat there herself.
So either way, Macdonalds had no reason to eject her- I cannot comment on their seating policy as i am not aware of it am afraid.
Although i would hazard a guess and say that seating within macdonalds is open to all supermarket users?
Anyone know?
Posted by: Jayteer, Bournemouth on 12:21pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]john[/bold] wrote:
while i totally agree with the actions of the mothers in echo picture,what puzzles me is if they regard it as so natural to breast feed, why as picture appears to show are they trying so hard to cover there selves,it creates the impression they are ashamed of this natural act,[/quote] As anyone who has ever had a picture of them taken for ANY newspaper, the photographer arranges to meet you for the photoshoot, and the photographer tells you how to look, how to stand and where etc.. so they can take the best picture.
Given the fact that this is the norm, i would probably say that the breasts are covered up for 'editorial' reasons?
The pic is going in a newspaper after all :)
john wrote:
while i totally agree with the actions of the mothers in echo picture,what puzzles me is if they regard it as so natural to breast feed, why as picture appears to show are they trying so hard to cover there selves,it creates the impression they are ashamed of this natural act,
As anyone who has ever had a picture of them taken for ANY newspaper, the photographer arranges to meet you for the photoshoot, and the photographer tells you how to look, how to stand and where etc.. so they can take the best picture.
Given the fact that this is the norm, i would probably say that the breasts are covered up for 'editorial' reasons?
The pic is going in a newspaper after all :)
Posted by: BournPosh, Bournemouth on 12:40pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]theoldun[/bold] wrote:
I have no objection to mothers discreetly breast feeding their children in public if they so wish. What I find slightly disturbing however is that McDonalds is a private business and if, as on this occasion,the person assumably in charge decided they did not want the mother to do so on their premises, why is this so wrong? Do they not have the right to say no? Did the lady think beforehand to check with the management that they had no objection? Would that not have been good manners? Are we not just pushing the door open wider to say that it is our right to do whatever we want where ever we are and that the business/property owner has NO right to object?[/quote] Absolutely. Agree 100%.
theoldun wrote:
I have no objection to mothers discreetly breast feeding their children in public if they so wish. What I find slightly disturbing however is that McDonalds is a private business and if, as on this occasion,the person assumably in charge decided they did not want the mother to do so on their premises, why is this so wrong? Do they not have the right to say no? Did the lady think beforehand to check with the management that they had no objection? Would that not have been good manners? Are we not just pushing the door open wider to say that it is our right to do whatever we want where ever we are and that the business/property owner has NO right to object?
Absolutely. Agree 100%.
Posted by: angela, ferndown on 12:53pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]john[/bold] wrote:
while i totally agree with the actions of the mothers in echo picture,what puzzles me is if they regard it as so natural to breast feed, why as picture appears to show are they trying so hard to cover there selves,it creates the impression they are ashamed of this natural act,[/quote] John, There is No need to expose your entire breast when you breastfeed, You only have to lift your top to just above the nipple and the rest of the breast is covered by the babies head. They are not ashamed they are just being discreet as all us breastfeeding mothers like to be.
john wrote:
while i totally agree with the actions of the mothers in echo picture,what puzzles me is if they regard it as so natural to breast feed, why as picture appears to show are they trying so hard to cover there selves,it creates the impression they are ashamed of this natural act,
John, There is No need to expose your entire breast when you breastfeed, You only have to lift your top to just above the nipple and the rest of the breast is covered by the babies head. They are not ashamed they are just being discreet as all us breastfeeding mothers like to be.
Posted by: Maria, christchurch on 1:06pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Totaly agree Angela. Most breast feeding mothers are discreet so therefore wouldn't be flashing their breasts at the photographer. I breastfed all mine and if I had to in public I did!. Apart from the latching on, once my babies were feeding no-one would have been any the wiser as I used my top or a blanket to cover up. I think most people just presume mothers sit their with them all hanging out which is of course mostly untrue. I hate fast food places like Mcdonalds, but fair play to them they have apologised and said their employee was in the wrong.
Totaly agree Angela. Most breast feeding mothers are discreet so therefore wouldn't be flashing their breasts at the photographer. I breastfed all mine and if I had to in public I did!. Apart from the latching on, once my babies were feeding no-one would have been any the wiser as I used my top or a blanket to cover up. I think most people just presume mothers sit their with them all hanging out which is of course mostly untrue. I hate fast food places like Mcdonalds, but fair play to them they have apologised and said their employee was in the wrong.
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 1:41pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Jayteer,
You are not correct in your assumption.
I did read the article in full and yes I do know that the only seating available is in the area that you state.
If a Macdonalds employee asked the lady to leave it would seem to be an obvious case that the lady was seated in an area that was in the control of this over zealous business front man!
As to the seating "open to all", there aint no such thing as a free lunch!
Jayteer,
You are not correct in your assumption.
I did read the article in full and yes I do know that the only seating available is in the area that you state.
If a Macdonalds employee asked the lady to leave it would seem to be an obvious case that the lady was seated in an area that was in the control of this over zealous business front man!
As to the seating "open to all", there aint no such thing as a free lunch!
Posted by: Jayteer, Bournemouth on 1:58pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]laurie marsh[/bold] wrote:
Jayteer, You are not correct in your assumption. I did read the article in full and yes I do know that the only seating available is in the area that you state. If a Macdonalds employee asked the lady to leave it would seem to be an obvious case that the lady was seated in an area that was in the control of this over zealous business front man! As to the seating "open to all", there aint no such thing as a free lunch![/quote] Perhaps this is the case- BUT your argument IS flawed!
Because (and again i reiterate you have NOT read the document) MCDONALDS have ADMITTED their employee was int he wrong- he should NEVER have challenged her CONCERNING the breast feeding- If however she was simply sat there not having bought anything on her own etc or causing trouble then i understand why she was asked to leave.
But i dont understand why you are attempting to justify an erroneous decision made by an over zealous employee when the company have publically made it clear they were in the wrong?!?!
laurie marsh wrote:
Jayteer, You are not correct in your assumption. I did read the article in full and yes I do know that the only seating available is in the area that you state. If a Macdonalds employee asked the lady to leave it would seem to be an obvious case that the lady was seated in an area that was in the control of this over zealous business front man! As to the seating "open to all", there aint no such thing as a free lunch!
Perhaps this is the case- BUT your argument IS flawed!
Because (and again i reiterate you have NOT read the document) MCDONALDS have ADMITTED their employee was int he wrong- he should NEVER have challenged her CONCERNING the breast feeding- If however she was simply sat there not having bought anything on her own etc or causing trouble then i understand why she was asked to leave.
But i dont understand why you are attempting to justify an erroneous decision made by an over zealous employee when the company have publically made it clear they were in the wrong?!?!
Posted by: locum, Moordown on 2:01pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I am totally with Jayteer, although agree that the report should have made clear if the mother was eating/drinking.
BUT, I made a point of looking today, and there are seats just yards away inside Asda
so where does Laurie get his assumption from? I certainly have nothing against mother`s breast-feeding in public but am totally against people just making use of commercial facilities - this is just the same as those arrogant people in Winton who use Lidl car park but not only do not shop there but sneer at the very idea.
I am totally with Jayteer, although agree that the report should have made clear if the mother was eating/drinking.
BUT, I made a point of looking today, and there are seats just yards away inside Asda
so where does Laurie get his assumption from? I certainly have nothing against mother`s breast-feeding in public but am totally against people just making use of commercial facilities - this is just the same as those arrogant people in Winton who use Lidl car park but not only do not shop there but sneer at the very idea.
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 2:20pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]theoldun[/bold] wrote:
I have no objection to mothers discreetly breast feeding their children in public if they so wish. What I find slightly disturbing however is that McDonalds is a private business and if, as on this occasion,the person assumably in charge decided they did not want the mother to do so on their premises, why is this so wrong? Do they not have the right to say no? Did the lady think beforehand to check with the management that they had no objection? Would that not have been good manners? Are we not just pushing the door open wider to say that it is our right to do whatever we want where ever we are and that the business/property owner has NO right to object?[/quote] Following your logic, would it be okay for business owners to eject people on the ground of being the wrong colour?
theoldun wrote:
I have no objection to mothers discreetly breast feeding their children in public if they so wish. What I find slightly disturbing however is that McDonalds is a private business and if, as on this occasion,the person assumably in charge decided they did not want the mother to do so on their premises, why is this so wrong? Do they not have the right to say no? Did the lady think beforehand to check with the management that they had no objection? Would that not have been good manners? Are we not just pushing the door open wider to say that it is our right to do whatever we want where ever we are and that the business/property owner has NO right to object?
Following your logic, would it be okay for business owners to eject people on the ground of being the wrong colour?
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 2:26pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Jayteer and Locum,
I believe that I used the words "over zealous" I dont quite see where you find the word "justify"!
If Mcdonalds have convinced the mothers of their error and have apologised why was a protest needed?
Jayteer and Locum,
I believe that I used the words "over zealous" I dont quite see where you find the word "justify"!
If Mcdonalds have convinced the mothers of their error and have apologised why was a protest needed?
Posted by: snoff, Poole on 2:42pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]laurie marsh[/bold] wrote:
Jayteer and Locum, I believe that I used the words "over zealous" I dont quite see where you find the word "justify"! If Mcdonalds have convinced the mothers of their error and have apologised why was a protest needed?[/quote] rack off you flaming gallah!
laurie marsh wrote:
Jayteer and Locum, I believe that I used the words "over zealous" I dont quite see where you find the word "justify"! If Mcdonalds have convinced the mothers of their error and have apologised why was a protest needed?
rack off you flaming gallah!
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 2:53pm Fri 18 Jul 08
SNOFF,
If you have a (reasonable) point to make, go for your life!
"Rack off....etc."
Sounds like some idiotic, meaningless statement from some halfwit!
Feel free to get a day pass from your institution and join in the discussion!
SNOFF,
If you have a (reasonable) point to make, go for your life!
"Rack off....etc."
Sounds like some idiotic, meaningless statement from some halfwit!
Feel free to get a day pass from your institution and join in the discussion!
Posted by: jpcm24, Bournemouth on 3:01pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I'm sorry, but it is a 'restaurant' where people are eating. If I am in a restaurant I don't want to see that. I don't care how great you think it is that you have a kid and how great and special you think your kid is.
I'm sorry, but it is a 'restaurant' where people are eating. If I am in a restaurant I don't want to see that. I don't care how great you think it is that you have a kid and how great and special you think your kid is.
Posted by: Maria, christchurch on 3:19pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]jpcm24[/bold] wrote:
I'm sorry, but it is a 'restaurant' where people are eating. If I am in a restaurant I don't want to see that. I don't care how great you think it is that you have a kid and how great and special you think your kid is. [/quote] the point you are missing is that you DON'T see anything.
jpcm24 wrote:
I'm sorry, but it is a 'restaurant' where people are eating. If I am in a restaurant I don't want to see that. I don't care how great you think it is that you have a kid and how great and special you think your kid is.
the point you are missing is that you DON'T see anything.
Posted by: Sophie McInnes, Poole on 3:25pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Go Maddie and the girls! And well done for standing your ground in the first place :)
Go Maddie and the girls! And well done for standing your ground in the first place :)
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 3:36pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]jpcm24[/bold] wrote:
I'm sorry, but it is a 'restaurant' where people are eating. If I am in a restaurant I don't want to see that. I don't care how great you think it is that you have a kid and how great and special you think your kid is. [/quote] Then don't look! I also think you should seek counselling for your obvious phobia of women's breasts.
jpcm24 wrote:
I'm sorry, but it is a 'restaurant' where people are eating. If I am in a restaurant I don't want to see that. I don't care how great you think it is that you have a kid and how great and special you think your kid is.
Then don't look! I also think you should seek counselling for your obvious phobia of women's breasts.
Posted by: Morgangee, The Picnic on 3:44pm Fri 18 Jul 08
This issue is not about the mother - it's about the baby. Babies get hungry. Hungry babies get fed. Every baby has a right to food when hungry: here and when they get hungry is immaterial. Hungry babies get fed milk. Doesn't matter what milk, or which delivery system you use. Hungry baby = milk. Simple.
If you are offended, look away. Your feeling of unease does not take priority over the baby's Human Rights to food.
Mothers have a right to protection from being harrassed, when their hungry babies ask for food. Scotland recognises this, by making it illegal to harass them, or demanding the baby stop feeding. It's about time babies and mothers in England and Wales had the same legal protection.
This issue is not about the mother - it's about the baby. Babies get hungry. Hungry babies get fed. Every baby has a right to food when hungry: here and when they get hungry is immaterial. Hungry babies get fed milk. Doesn't matter what milk, or which delivery system you use. Hungry baby = milk. Simple.
If you are offended, look away. Your feeling of unease does not take priority over the baby's Human Rights to food.
Mothers have a right to protection from being harrassed, when their hungry babies ask for food. Scotland recognises this, by making it illegal to harass them, or demanding the baby stop feeding. It's about time babies and mothers in England and Wales had the same legal protection.
Posted by: Claire, Birmingham on 3:53pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Phil[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]theoldun[/bold] wrote: I have no objection to mothers discreetly breast feeding their children in public if they so wish. What I find slightly disturbing however is that McDonalds is a private business and if, as on this occasion,the person assumably in charge decided they did not want the mother to do so on their premises, why is this so wrong? Do they not have the right to say no? Did the lady think beforehand to check with the management that they had no objection? Would that not have been good manners? Are we not just pushing the door open wider to say that it is our right to do whatever we want where ever we are and that the business/property owner has NO right to object?[/quote] Following your logic, would it be okay for business owners to eject people on the ground of being the wrong colour?[/quote] lol brilliant! I was trying to work out the best way to reply to that. Nuff said!
Phil wrote:
theoldun wrote: I have no objection to mothers discreetly breast feeding their children in public if they so wish. What I find slightly disturbing however is that McDonalds is a private business and if, as on this occasion,the person assumably in charge decided they did not want the mother to do so on their premises, why is this so wrong? Do they not have the right to say no? Did the lady think beforehand to check with the management that they had no objection? Would that not have been good manners? Are we not just pushing the door open wider to say that it is our right to do whatever we want where ever we are and that the business/property owner has NO right to object?
Following your logic, would it be okay for business owners to eject people on the ground of being the wrong colour?
lol brilliant! I was trying to work out the best way to reply to that. Nuff said!
Posted by: Claire, Birmingham on 3:57pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Just like to point out that:
[quote]to highlight the campaign to give mums the right to breastfeed in public places[/quote]
is incorrect. We [italic]have[/italic] the right to breastfeed in public places, there is no need to campaign for it. The campaign is to stop the government making it legal for a mother to be stopped if her baby is over 6 months as it appears they are trying to do and bring our laws in line with the Scottish law that makes it illegal to stop a baby under 2 from being fed.
Just like to point out that:
to highlight the campaign to give mums the right to breastfeed in public places
is incorrect. We
have the right to breastfeed in public places, there is no need to campaign for it. The campaign is to stop the government making it legal for a mother to be stopped if her baby is over 6 months as it appears they are trying to do and bring our laws in line with the Scottish law that makes it illegal to stop a baby under 2 from being fed.
Posted by: Hugh, Bournemouth on 5:34pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][italic]popped into the McDonald's at Asda Castlepoint two weeks ago, after she had been shopping and began feeding 10-week-old Sophie.[/italic] [/quote]I suspect that the mum went into McDonald's, not to buy anything, but to simply sit down. Thus the staff objected not so much to the breast feeding but to the occupation of the seat.
McDonald is a very competitive company and is run on very tight budgets, and cannot afford to provide free seating for anyone.
I have looked carefully at the picture of the feeding protest group in action, which I assume is in McDonalds, but I cannot see that they have brought anything to justify their occupancy of the seats.
popped into the McDonald's at Asda Castlepoint two weeks ago, after she had been shopping and began feeding 10-week-old Sophie.
I suspect that the mum went into McDonald's, not to buy anything, but to simply sit down. Thus the staff objected not so much to the breast feeding but to the occupation of the seat.
McDonald is a very competitive company and is run on very tight budgets, and cannot afford to provide free seating for anyone.
I have looked carefully at the picture of the feeding protest group in action, which I assume is in McDonalds, but I cannot see that they have brought anything to justify their occupancy of the seats.
Posted by: hoppity, hamworthy on 5:38pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]jpcm24[/bold] wrote:
I'm sorry, but it is a 'restaurant' where people are eating. If I am in a restaurant I don't want to see that. I don't care how great you think it is that you have a kid and how great and special you think your kid is. [/quote] so its ok for men and women to walk aroung showing miles of flesh in the summer when wearing skimpy clothes and offending us all but not a woman to sit and feed a screaming baby, I think you will find most mothers have a blanket to cover the baby when feeding. Why is this such an issue in this day and age I breast feed my daughter 27 years ago and no one had a problem
jpcm24 wrote:
I'm sorry, but it is a 'restaurant' where people are eating. If I am in a restaurant I don't want to see that. I don't care how great you think it is that you have a kid and how great and special you think your kid is.
so its ok for men and women to walk aroung showing miles of flesh in the summer when wearing skimpy clothes and offending us all but not a woman to sit and feed a screaming baby, I think you will find most mothers have a blanket to cover the baby when feeding. Why is this such an issue in this day and age I breast feed my daughter 27 years ago and no one had a problem
Posted by: Hugh, Bournemouth on 5:40pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Hugh[/bold] wrote:
[quote][italic]popped into the McDonald's at Asda Castlepoint two weeks ago, after she had been shopping and began feeding 10-week-old Sophie.[/italic] [/quote]I suspect that the mum went into McDonald's, not to buy anything, but to simply sit down. Thus the staff objected not so much to the breast feeding but to the occupation of the seat. McDonald is a very competitive company and is run on very tight budgets, and cannot afford to provide free seating for anyone. I have looked carefully at the picture of the feeding protest group in action, which I assume is in McDonalds, but I cannot see that they have brought anything to justify their occupancy of the seats. [/quote] [italic][quote]Deuteronomy 1:15-17 (New International Version)
15 So I took the leading men of your tribes, wise and respected men, and appointed them to have authority over you—as commanders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties and of tens and as tribal officials. 16 And I charged your judges at that time: Hear the disputes between your brothers and judge fairly, whether the case is between brother Israelites or between one of them and an alien. 17 Do not show partiality in judging; hear both small and great alike. Do not be afraid of any man, for judgment belongs to God. Bring me any case too hard for you, and I will hear it.[/quote][/italic]
Hugh wrote:
popped into the McDonald's at Asda Castlepoint two weeks ago, after she had been shopping and began feeding 10-week-old Sophie.
I suspect that the mum went into McDonald's, not to buy anything, but to simply sit down. Thus the staff objected not so much to the breast feeding but to the occupation of the seat. McDonald is a very competitive company and is run on very tight budgets, and cannot afford to provide free seating for anyone. I have looked carefully at the picture of the feeding protest group in action, which I assume is in McDonalds, but I cannot see that they have brought anything to justify their occupancy of the seats.
Deuteronomy 1:15-17 (New International Version)
15 So I took the leading men of your tribes, wise and respected men, and appointed them to have authority over you—as commanders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties and of tens and as tribal officials. 16 And I charged your judges at that time: Hear the disputes between your brothers and judge fairly, whether the case is between brother Israelites or between one of them and an alien. 17 Do not show partiality in judging; hear both small and great alike. Do not be afraid of any man, for judgment belongs to God. Bring me any case too hard for you, and I will hear it.
Posted by: Hugh, Bournemouth on 5:42pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][italic]Deuteronomy 1:15-17 (New International Version)
15 So I took the leading men of your tribes, wise and respected men, and appointed them to have authority over you—as commanders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties and of tens and as tribal officials. 16 And I charged your judges at that time: Hear the disputes between your brothers and [bold]judge fairly[/bold] , whether the case is between brother Israelites or between one of them and an alien.
17 Do not show partiality in judging; hear both small and great alike. Do not be afraid of any man, for judgment belongs to God. Bring me any case too hard for you, and I will hear it.[/italic][/quote]
Deuteronomy 1:15-17 (New International Version)
15 So I took the leading men of your tribes, wise and respected men, and appointed them to have authority over you—as commanders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties and of tens and as tribal officials. 16 And I charged your judges at that time: Hear the disputes between your brothers and judge fairly , whether the case is between brother Israelites or between one of them and an alien.
17 Do not show partiality in judging; hear both small and great alike. Do not be afraid of any man, for judgment belongs to God. Bring me any case too hard for you, and I will hear it.
Posted by: john, christchurch on 6:01pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Hugh[/bold] wrote:
[quote][italic]Deuteronomy 1:15-17 (New International Version)
15 So I took the leading men of your tribes, wise and respected men, and appointed them to have authority over you—as commanders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties and of tens and as tribal officials. 16 And I charged your judges at that time: Hear the disputes between your brothers and [bold]judge fairly[/bold] , whether the case is between brother Israelites or between one of them and an alien.
17 Do not show partiality in judging; hear both small and great alike. Do not be afraid of any man, for judgment belongs to God. Bring me any case too hard for you, and I will hear it.[/italic][/quote] [/quote] your point is ?
Hugh wrote:
Deuteronomy 1:15-17 (New International Version)
15 So I took the leading men of your tribes, wise and respected men, and appointed them to have authority over you—as commanders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties and of tens and as tribal officials. 16 And I charged your judges at that time: Hear the disputes between your brothers and judge fairly , whether the case is between brother Israelites or between one of them and an alien.
17 Do not show partiality in judging; hear both small and great alike. Do not be afraid of any man, for judgment belongs to God. Bring me any case too hard for you, and I will hear it.
your point is ?
Posted by: Hugh, Bournemouth on 6:25pm Fri 18 Jul 08
john, christchurch on 6:01pm today
Read the comment - Hugh, Bournemouth on 5:34pm today
john, christchurch on 6:01pm today
Read the comment - Hugh, Bournemouth on 5:34pm today
Posted by: syrup, bournemouth on 7:27pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I think some of you people really need to get out more.
I think some of you people really need to get out more.
Posted by: hoppity, hamworthy on 7:27pm Fri 18 Jul 08
So sorry Hugh unfortunately no one understands your constant quoting of the scriptures. Which I understand are open to interpretation anyway, depending on your view of things.
So sorry Hugh unfortunately no one understands your constant quoting of the scriptures. Which I understand are open to interpretation anyway, depending on your view of things.
Posted by: Ken Warner, Vancouver. CANADA on 4:26am Sat 19 Jul 08
C'mon Anton, that's why baby Amelia was breast feeding. She didn't like what was on the menu.
C'mon Anton, that's why baby Amelia was breast feeding. She didn't like what was on the menu.
Posted by: hoppity, hamworthy on 6:20am Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Hugh[/bold] wrote:
[quote][italic]popped into the McDonald's at Asda Castlepoint two weeks ago, after she had been shopping and began feeding 10-week-old Sophie.[/italic] [/quote]I suspect that the mum went into McDonald's, not to buy anything, but to simply sit down. Thus the staff objected not so much to the breast feeding but to the occupation of the seat. McDonald is a very competitive company and is run on very tight budgets, and cannot afford to provide free seating for anyone. I have looked carefully at the picture of the feeding protest group in action, which I assume is in McDonalds, but I cannot see that they have brought anything to justify their occupancy of the seats. [/quote] marks and spencers ler you use facilities and sit and breast feed and do not expect you to buy anything
Hugh wrote:
popped into the McDonald's at Asda Castlepoint two weeks ago, after she had been shopping and began feeding 10-week-old Sophie.
I suspect that the mum went into McDonald's, not to buy anything, but to simply sit down. Thus the staff objected not so much to the breast feeding but to the occupation of the seat. McDonald is a very competitive company and is run on very tight budgets, and cannot afford to provide free seating for anyone. I have looked carefully at the picture of the feeding protest group in action, which I assume is in McDonalds, but I cannot see that they have brought anything to justify their occupancy of the seats.
marks and spencers ler you use facilities and sit and breast feed and do not expect you to buy anything
Posted by: Sticks, Newcastle upon Tyne on 11:26am Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote]We have the right to breastfeed in public places, there is no need to campaign for it. The campaign is to stop the government making it legal for a mother to be stopped if her baby is over 6 months as it appears they are trying to do and bring our laws in line with the Scottish law that makes it illegal to stop a baby under 2 from being fed.[/quote]
Claire of Birmingham, technically you are incorrect. Under English law, a woman breastfeeding in public can be charged with indecency and a public order offence, making breastfeeding in public by default unlawful, even though there was no specific anti-breastfeeding law.
McDonald's, on there makeupyouownmind website do say that their policy is to allow mothers to breastfeed, and this junior manager was not following company policy, however, with the law the way it is, I am not sure if McDonald's enlightened policy is superseded by the law.
Women should therefore, to be compliant with the law feed in the toilets for the time being. I know the argument about eating food in a toilet, but under the crazy legal system we have, me eating in public is not unlawful. After all if a woman breastfeeding in public was done under indecency, then she could be made to sign the sex offenders list, with the consequence that her baby is placed on the at risk registar, if she is allowed to keep it ([i]A very extreme what if, I do grant[/i])
However, I do believe we should bring the law into line with Scottish law.
We have the right to breastfeed in public places, there is no need to campaign for it. The campaign is to stop the government making it legal for a mother to be stopped if her baby is over 6 months as it appears they are trying to do and bring our laws in line with the Scottish law that makes it illegal to stop a baby under 2 from being fed.
Claire of Birmingham, technically you are incorrect. Under English law, a woman breastfeeding in public can be charged with indecency and a public order offence, making breastfeeding in public by default unlawful, even though there was no specific anti-breastfeeding law.
McDonald's, on there makeupyouownmind website do say that their policy is to allow mothers to breastfeed, and this junior manager was not following company policy, however, with the law the way it is, I am not sure if McDonald's enlightened policy is superseded by the law.
Women should therefore, to be compliant with the law feed in the toilets for the time being. I know the argument about eating food in a toilet, but under the crazy legal system we have, me eating in public is not unlawful. After all if a woman breastfeeding in public was done under indecency, then she could be made to sign the sex offenders list, with the consequence that her baby is placed on the at risk registar, if she is allowed to keep it (A very extreme what if, I do grant)
However, I do believe we should bring the law into line with Scottish law.
Posted by: Morgangee, The Picnic on 1:56pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Sticks of Newcastle..
I'm afraid it is you that is incorrect.
Breasfteeding does not fall under either indecency or public order offences. That is a myth. A myth that gets a lot of media coverage, but a myth nonetheless. No women has ever been prosecuted for either indecency, or public order offences, and none ever shall be.
Breastfeeding in public is legal throughout the UK.
The issue is making sure that babies are not harrassed by idiots, when they are feeding. And that mothers feel safe, even knowing that they are legal to breastfeed wherever their babies happen to get hungry. Know they can call the police and have the idiot harrassing them, told to leave off and get on with their own business.
http://thedevilsalte
rnatives.blogspot.co
m/2008/07/breastfeed
ing-is-not-illegal.h
tml
Sticks of Newcastle..
I'm afraid it is you that is incorrect.
Breasfteeding does not fall under either indecency or public order offences. That is a myth. A myth that gets a lot of media coverage, but a myth nonetheless. No women has ever been prosecuted for either indecency, or public order offences, and none ever shall be.
Breastfeeding in public is legal throughout the UK.
The issue is making sure that babies are not harrassed by idiots, when they are feeding. And that mothers feel safe, even knowing that they are legal to breastfeed wherever their babies happen to get hungry. Know they can call the police and have the idiot harrassing them, told to leave off and get on with their own business.
http://thedevilsalte
rnatives.blogspot.co
m/2008/07/breastfeed
ing-is-not-illegal.h
tml
Posted by: hoppity, hamworthy on 2:14pm Sat 19 Jul 08
seems Scotland have a lot of laws in place before than ours which is ironic considering OUR leader mr Brown is Scots.
seems Scotland have a lot of laws in place before than ours which is ironic considering OUR leader mr Brown is Scots.
Posted by: Claire, Birmingham on 3:06pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Thanks Morgan, got in in my absence and said it far better than I could have done too!
I'm a peer supporter, Sticks, so I am well aware of the law around breastfeeding because I need to be able to reassure mothers they are free to nurse their baby in public.
Thanks Morgan, got in in my absence and said it far better than I could have done too!
I'm a peer supporter, Sticks, so I am well aware of the law around breastfeeding because I need to be able to reassure mothers they are free to nurse their baby in public.
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 3:35pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Why is this such an issue?
Babies need to be fed (as do we all).
Whether the mother chooses to use a bottle or her breast is (or should be) immaterial!
We have over 40 comments, from religious fruit cakes to people who live 16,000 klms. away!
The bottom line is that if this is such a big deal we are all in trouble!
We are all mammals, (apart from the politicians) so we should act accordingly!
Why is this such an issue?
Babies need to be fed (as do we all).
Whether the mother chooses to use a bottle or her breast is (or should be) immaterial!
We have over 40 comments, from religious fruit cakes to people who live 16,000 klms. away!
The bottom line is that if this is such a big deal we are all in trouble!
We are all mammals, (apart from the politicians) so we should act accordingly!
Posted by: Sticks, Newcastle upon Tyne on 4:53pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Morgangee and Claire, thanks for the legal clarification. I must confess I got my legal information first from the media, such as the Daily Mail online and the Telegraph online, and they did, as the blog Morgangee gave the link to, imply that it was breastfeeding in public was unlawful.
I even asked someone from the Child Care trust, and after admitting they were not legal experts, said this
[quote]there is no actual law that states that breastfeeding itself is illegal in public, however, there are other laws such as public order offences or indecency offences, that could be used to try to challenge a woman who is breastfeeding in public - should someone have the urge to try. [/quote]
Again an implication there that other "laws" would be used against the woman. This is what I am basing things on. The blog seems to be much more detailed on the law.
As a BTW, what happened in that Norfolk case and when was it?
The second BTW is a reiteration that I believe women [b]should[/b] be allowed to breastfeed in public, so we are on the same side.
BTW3 is there a link to that picnic event?
Morgangee and Claire, thanks for the legal clarification. I must confess I got my legal information first from the media, such as the Daily Mail online and the Telegraph online, and they did, as the blog Morgangee gave the link to, imply that it was breastfeeding in public was unlawful.
I even asked someone from the Child Care trust, and after admitting they were not legal experts, said this
there is no actual law that states that breastfeeding itself is illegal in public, however, there are other laws such as public order offences or indecency offences, that could be used to try to challenge a woman who is breastfeeding in public - should someone have the urge to try.
Again an implication there that other "laws" would be used against the woman. This is what I am basing things on. The blog seems to be much more detailed on the law.
As a BTW, what happened in that Norfolk case and when was it?
The second BTW is a reiteration that I believe women should be allowed to breastfeed in public, so we are on the same side.
BTW3 is there a link to that picnic event?
Posted by: Sticks, Newcastle upon Tyne on 4:56pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Oops I should have said, that is what I [bold]was[/bold] basing things on
Oops I should have said, that is what I
was basing things on
Posted by: Morgangee, The Picnic on 6:06pm Sat 19 Jul 08
http://www.timesonli
ne.co.uk/tol/news/uk
/article592740.ece
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/norfo
lk/4457490.stm
http://www.theyworkf
oryou.com/debates/?i
d=2006-10-20b.1193.0
Given the misinformation that abounds, it's easy to see why anyone would think it was illegal to breastfeed in public - and as the blog link says, police who are not trained will go for the easy option. Myth becomes 'fact' when reported in good media sources. Journalism standards appear to fall apart on some issues, and breastfeeding is a misreported more often than not.
The police forces in Scotland held special training seminars for their officers when the protection against harrssment laws came in. Seems like the England and Wales forces could do with reminding everyone that it's not illegal! As well as news editors.
And woman are allowed to breastfeed in public - so I'll only know if we're on the same side, if you are saying that you argree that idiots should be stopped from interfereing with them doing so! ;-)
All the various picnic details are on
http://one-of-those-
women.blogspot.com/2
008/06/breastfeeding
-picnic-2008.html
http://www.timesonli
ne.co.uk/tol/news/uk
/article592740.ece
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/norfo
lk/4457490.stm
http://www.theyworkf
oryou.com/debates/?i
d=2006-10-20b.1193.0
Given the misinformation that abounds, it's easy to see why anyone would think it was illegal to breastfeed in public - and as the blog link says, police who are not trained will go for the easy option. Myth becomes 'fact' when reported in good media sources. Journalism standards appear to fall apart on some issues, and breastfeeding is a misreported more often than not.
The police forces in Scotland held special training seminars for their officers when the protection against harrssment laws came in. Seems like the England and Wales forces could do with reminding everyone that it's not illegal! As well as news editors.
And woman are allowed to breastfeed in public - so I'll only know if we're on the same side, if you are saying that you argree that idiots should be stopped from interfereing with them doing so! ;-)
All the various picnic details are on
http://one-of-those-
women.blogspot.com/2
008/06/breastfeeding
-picnic-2008.html
Posted by: Sticks, Newcastle upon Tyne on 7:43pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote]And woman are allowed to breastfeed in public - so I'll only know if we're on the same side, if you are saying that you argree that idiots should be stopped from interfereing with them doing so! ;-)
[/quote]
Yes I do agree with you on that one. This is yet another occasion where Scotland seems to be leading the way.
And woman are allowed to breastfeed in public - so I'll only know if we're on the same side, if you are saying that you argree that idiots should be stopped from interfereing with them doing so! ;-)
Yes I do agree with you on that one. This is yet another occasion where Scotland seems to be leading the way.
Posted by: Sticks, Newcastle upon Tyne on 7:57pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Incidentally in the blog it sees to imply the lady in question was arrested for breach of the piece, yet in the media reports, they did not say she was arrested.
I had heard this case before, but because of the blog description thought it was another case.
Good luck with the picnic, there is an event in Durham I see, but I will be at work so unable to attend - sorry
Incidentally in the blog it sees to imply the lady in question was arrested for breach of the piece, yet in the media reports, they did not say she was arrested.
I had heard this case before, but because of the blog description thought it was another case.
Good luck with the picnic, there is an event in Durham I see, but I will be at work so unable to attend - sorry
Posted by: Claire, Birmingham on 8:33pm Sat 19 Jul 08
There is an online event via facebook if you want to add your support.
There is an online event via facebook if you want to add your support.
Posted by: Sticks, Newcastle upon Tyne on 8:47pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Claire[/bold] wrote:
There is an online event via facebook if you want to add your support.[/quote] I have already added a comment of support in the Durham one
Claire wrote:
There is an online event via facebook if you want to add your support.
I have already added a comment of support in the Durham one
Posted by: hoppity, hamworthy on 9:31am Sun 20 Jul 08
see it made the daily mirror yesterday
"good on you all"
see it made the daily mirror yesterday
"good on you all"
Posted by: Sticks, Newcastle upon Tyne on 8:54am Mon 21 Jul 08
BTW, I was on Facebook in the BBC Radio 4 Saturday Live group page and found this link
http://petitions.pm.
gov.uk/breastfedrigh
t/
Which initially says this
[quote]We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Make breastfeeding in public legally acceptable for all babies and children[/quote]
Which again implies someone thinks that breastfeeding in public is illegal, but in the details says
[quote]We urge the government to rethink its Equalities law protecting mothers who breastfeed in public. This law is only effective for babies 6 months and under. Babies over this age have just as much need for both the ingredients and immunities in breast milk AND the psychological benefits of affectionate mother love which are unique to breastfeeding. The cut-off age of six months will only serve to make breastfeeding even more open to ignorance and misinformation. It perpetuates the belief that breastfeeding after six months is not important. WHO recommends a minimum (not maximum!) of six months EXCLUSIVE breastfeeding and both WHO and UNICEF recommend a minimum of two years breastfeeding.
[/quote]
FWIW
Being a civil servant, I am not sure I am allowed to sign these e-petitions on any subject, which is why I have not signed this one, just like the many others that people ask me to sign.
BTW, I was on Facebook in the BBC Radio 4 Saturday Live group page and found this link
http://petitions.pm.
gov.uk/breastfedrigh
t/
Which initially says this
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Make breastfeeding in public legally acceptable for all babies and children
Which again implies someone thinks that breastfeeding in public is illegal, but in the details says
We urge the government to rethink its Equalities law protecting mothers who breastfeed in public. This law is only effective for babies 6 months and under. Babies over this age have just as much need for both the ingredients and immunities in breast milk AND the psychological benefits of affectionate mother love which are unique to breastfeeding. The cut-off age of six months will only serve to make breastfeeding even more open to ignorance and misinformation. It perpetuates the belief that breastfeeding after six months is not important. WHO recommends a minimum (not maximum!) of six months EXCLUSIVE breastfeeding and both WHO and UNICEF recommend a minimum of two years breastfeeding.
FWIW
Being a civil servant, I am not sure I am allowed to sign these e-petitions on any subject, which is why I have not signed this one, just like the many others that people ask me to sign.
Posted by: Sticks, Newcastle upon Tyne on 10:50am Thu 24 Jul 08
Looks like a government minister has weighed in on this
See http://www.equalitie
s.gov.uk/news/news-p
age3.htm
or
http://www.examiner.
co.uk/views-and-blog
s/reader-letters/200
8/07/21/protection-f
or-breastfeeding-mum
s-86081-21376410/
Looks like a government minister has weighed in on this
See http://www.equalitie
s.gov.uk/news/news-p
age3.htm
or
http://www.examiner.
co.uk/views-and-blog
s/reader-letters/200
8/07/21/protection-f
or-breastfeeding-mum
s-86081-21376410/
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