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Anger grows at 'bedroom tax'
MOMENTUM is gathering in a campaign against a so-called "bedroom tax" - and residents who have shelled out thousands of pounds between them have spoken out.
Mike Hobson, a retired builder from Worth Matravers, is threatening to take Purbeck District Council to the High Court over the controversial £1,000 charge it levies per bedroom on home extensions.
To date he has a list of more than 30 people affected by the charge.
The authority has stoutly defended its transport contribution policy and said it would "vigorously" fight its case if it did go to court.
It says the cash is needed to invest in roads and transport in congested Purbeck due to a shortfall in government cash.
David Malkin, 58, a business development manager of Wareham, added two rooms to the bungalow where he lives with wife, Shirley, as part of a loft conversion.
He was charged £1,950 and is now supporting Mr Hobson's campaign. One of the rooms is used as an office, allowing Mr Malkin to do less driving.
"It's a point of principle really, I'm not travelling as much as I used to as I'm working from home, which makes the whole purpose of the tax rather bizarre," he said.
Another Purbeck resident, who asked not to be named as his planning permission had yet to be granted, called the charge "legalised extortion".
He said: "Why are they punishing residents?"
South Dorset MP, Jim Knight, has said that people wanting to extend their homes should not be treated in the same way as developers when it comes to paying fees.
Tony Bird, principal planning officer at the council, said: "The authorities have made the decision that the way to part fund some of these necessary improvements is to require the developers, in the widest sense of the word, to contribute towards this, because there's a correlation between new development and traffic. There's a similar correlation between the size of a residential property and the amount of traffic that's generated from that and that's what the policy tries to address."
He added that officers would listen to individual circumstances.
7:07pm Friday 18th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: debbie2110, bournemouth on 7:19pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Not got a problem with the appeal, so long as the ‘tax’ is reinstated when the rooms are let out to students or when the property is sold to someone who will use the room as a bedroom!
Not got a problem with the appeal, so long as the ‘tax’ is reinstated when the rooms are let out to students or when the property is sold to someone who will use the room as a bedroom!
Posted by: twynham, Christchurch, Where time is beautiful. on 8:53pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Does David Malkin realise that if he uses a room in his house or a building in his garden as an office it is liable for business rates.
I would keep very quiet about it if I was him.
Oh dear, too late!
Does David Malkin realise that if he uses a room in his house or a building in his garden as an office it is liable for business rates.
I would keep very quiet about it if I was him.
Oh dear, too late!
Posted by: Carl Barron, Dorset on 8:54pm Fri 18 Jul 08
What with now a [bold]Bedroom TAX[/bold]
How's about a [bold]Chastity Belt TAX[/bold] Gordie?
You're slipping matey [bold]you are[/bold] , one that one.
Just think of the [bold]lovely pots of Cash Tax[/bold] from punters having to buy a [bold]Meter Card?
[/bold]
[italic]Ding, Ding,[/italic] [bold]bold[/bold] [italic]times up love[/italic] the [bold]cards run out[/bold] [italic] sorry.[/italic]
Many things spoken in jest [bold]become reality[/bold]
What with now a
Bedroom TAX
How's about a
Chastity Belt TAX Gordie?
You're slipping matey
you are , one that one.
Just think of the
lovely pots of Cash Tax from punters having to buy a
Meter Card?
Ding, Ding, times up love the
cards run out sorry.
Many things spoken in jest
become reality Posted by: Tim M, usa on 1:47am Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote:
undefined[/quote] Business rates for a home office eh? to think, in this country you get a big tax deduction for the office part of your house, the business related gear in it, and the percentage of all the bills used to heat, cool, light and connect the phone to it.
Hope you enjoy the resurfaced roads...
twynham wrote:
undefined
Business rates for a home office eh? to think, in this country you get a big tax deduction for the office part of your house, the business related gear in it, and the percentage of all the bills used to heat, cool, light and connect the phone to it.
Hope you enjoy the resurfaced roads...
Posted by: FletcherTheCat, The Sexy Beast on 7:24am Sat 19 Jul 08
As a purbeck voter, my vote in the next council elections will only go to a candidate that pledges to abolish this unfair charge.
As a purbeck voter, my vote in the next council elections will only go to a candidate that pledges to abolish this unfair charge.
Posted by: Charlie on 8:51am Sat 19 Jul 08
[bold]Business rates for a home office eh? to think, in this country you get a big tax deduction for the office part of your house, the business related gear in it, and the percentage of all the bills used to heat, cool, light and connect the phone to it.[/bold]
And a room used exclusively as an office is liable to capital gains tax if the oroperty is sold. I was advised to claim the percentage of time the room was used for business for heating, lighting, etc. - the rest of the time it's a bedroom. And you need separate insurance for an office - it isn't covered by household insurance.
Business rates for a home office eh? to think, in this country you get a big tax deduction for the office part of your house, the business related gear in it, and the percentage of all the bills used to heat, cool, light and connect the phone to it.
And a room used exclusively as an office is liable to capital gains tax if the oroperty is sold. I was advised to claim the percentage of time the room was used for business for heating, lighting, etc. - the rest of the time it's a bedroom. And you need separate insurance for an office - it isn't covered by household insurance.
Posted by: twynham, Christchurch, Where time is beautiful. on 9:56am Sat 19 Jul 08
I refer you to
http://www.voa.gov.u
k/publications/publi
c_fact_sheets/workin
g_from_home.html
I drink with a VOA officer, that is why I have a shed in my garden, not an office!
I refer you to
http://www.voa.gov.u
k/publications/publi
c_fact_sheets/workin
g_from_home.html
I drink with a VOA officer, that is why I have a shed in my garden, not an office!
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 11:33am Sat 19 Jul 08
If a "bedroom" tax is imposed surely this is a second bite of the cherry!
The builder already pays tax on any profit that he makes. The resident has employed the builders (keeping them off of the dole).
Thirty people (so far) have been forced to pay an extra 1,000 pounds towards infrastructure.
This seems to be somewhat unfair as another 45000 people live in the area who pay their taxes also.
Maybe a window tax is in order?
This would even things out somewhat!
Maybe the politicians of 300 years ago could teach this present lot a thing or two about unfair taxation!
If a "bedroom" tax is imposed surely this is a second bite of the cherry!
The builder already pays tax on any profit that he makes. The resident has employed the builders (keeping them off of the dole).
Thirty people (so far) have been forced to pay an extra 1,000 pounds towards infrastructure.
This seems to be somewhat unfair as another 45000 people live in the area who pay their taxes also.
Maybe a window tax is in order?
This would even things out somewhat!
Maybe the politicians of 300 years ago could teach this present lot a thing or two about unfair taxation!
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 12:45pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.
Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 12:46pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.
Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 1:07pm Sat 19 Jul 08
MMMMMMMM,
So your idea of fair means that to allow one other person to drive on the roads costs 1,000 pounds!
Most people who arrive to rent a room already own a car!
If that is what you believe, fine, I dont think that many people will agree with you1
MMMMMMMM,
So your idea of fair means that to allow one other person to drive on the roads costs 1,000 pounds!
Most people who arrive to rent a room already own a car!
If that is what you believe, fine, I dont think that many people will agree with you1
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 2:10pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote:
Does David Malkin realise that if he uses a room in his house or a building in his garden as an office it is liable for business rates.
I would keep very quiet about it if I was him.
Oh dear, too late!
[/quote] That's not true. It only becomes liable for business rates if it's a self-contained building (eg a converted garage) or is visited by staff or clients.
twynham wrote:
Does David Malkin realise that if he uses a room in his house or a building in his garden as an office it is liable for business rates.
I would keep very quiet about it if I was him.
Oh dear, too late!
That's not true. It only becomes liable for business rates if it's a self-contained building (eg a converted garage) or is visited by staff or clients.
Posted by: hoppity, hamworthy on 5:05pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]mmmmmmmmmmmm[/bold] wrote:
Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.[/quote] rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us
mmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.
rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 5:34pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]hoppity[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]mmmmmmmmmmmm[/bold] wrote:
Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.[/quote] rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us[/quote] Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
hoppity wrote:
mmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.
rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us
Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 5:35pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]hoppity[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]mmmmmmmmmmmm[/bold] wrote:
Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.[/quote] rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us[/quote] Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
hoppity wrote:
mmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.
rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us
Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
Posted by: Carl Barron, Dorset on 6:56pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 5:35pm today
[bold]Quote [/bold] Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem, perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
[bold]Reply [/bold] What a [bold]Dam cheek[/bold] to say such a thing to [italic]anyone[/italic] .
[bold]You[/bold] never entered the que for [bold]GOOD Manners[/bold] [italic] did you?[/italic]
UK Gov need extra children to fuel the work force instead of [bold]Foreign Imported Staff[/bold] as this is going to lead to a [bold]massive[/bold] National Community [bold]Law and Disorder crisis[/bold] soon.
I see you are another [bold]Gutless and faceless[/bold] person posting as a [bold]stupid Alias mmmmmmmm
[/bold]
People [italic]like you,[/italic] should be [bold]banned[/bold] from posting unless you use [bold]your Actual name Gutless.
[/bold]
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 5:35pm today
Quote Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem, perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
Reply What a
Dam cheek to say such a thing to
anyone .
You never entered the que for
GOOD Manners did you?
UK Gov need extra children to fuel the work force instead of
Foreign Imported Staff as this is going to lead to a
massive National Community
Law and Disorder crisis soon.
I see you are another
Gutless and faceless person posting as a
stupid Alias mmmmmmmm
People
like you, should be
banned from posting unless you use
your Actual name Gutless.
Posted by: MIG, Poole on 7:04pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote]laurie marsh, australia
Maybe a window tax is in order?
This would even things out somewhat![/quote]
We already have that, it is called the FENSA regulations and means that if you do not employ a FENSA registered contractor then you must pay a fee to Building Control to have a look at any new or replacement window.
laurie marsh, australia
Maybe a window tax is in order?
This would even things out somewhat!
We already have that, it is called the FENSA regulations and means that if you do not employ a FENSA registered contractor then you must pay a fee to Building Control to have a look at any new or replacement window.
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 11:57pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Carl Barron[/bold] wrote:
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 5:35pm today
[bold]Quote [/bold] Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem, perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
[bold]Reply [/bold] What a [bold]Dam cheek[/bold] to say such a thing to [italic]anyone[/italic] .
[bold]You[/bold] never entered the que for [bold]GOOD Manners[/bold] [italic] did you?[/italic]
UK Gov need extra children to fuel the work force instead of [bold]Foreign Imported Staff[/bold] as this is going to lead to a [bold]massive[/bold] National Community [bold]Law and Disorder crisis[/bold] soon.
I see you are another [bold]Gutless and faceless[/bold] person posting as a [bold]stupid Alias mmmmmmmm
[/bold]
People [italic]like you,[/italic] should be [bold]banned[/bold] from posting unless you use [bold]your Actual name Gutless.
[/bold]
[/quote] We do not need extra children we have plenty of Polish workers who do a very good job. And as far as being banned what about free speech.
Carl Barron wrote:
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 5:35pm today
Quote Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem, perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
Reply What a Dam cheek to say such a thing to anyone .
You never entered the que for GOOD Manners did you?
UK Gov need extra children to fuel the work force instead of Foreign Imported Staff as this is going to lead to a massive National Community Law and Disorder crisis soon.
I see you are another Gutless and faceless person posting as a stupid Alias mmmmmmmm
People like you, should be banned from posting unless you use your Actual name Gutless.
We do not need extra children we have plenty of Polish workers who do a very good job. And as far as being banned what about free speech.
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 11:57pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Carl Barron[/bold] wrote:
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 5:35pm today
[bold]Quote [/bold] Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem, perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
[bold]Reply [/bold] What a [bold]Dam cheek[/bold] to say such a thing to [italic]anyone[/italic] .
[bold]You[/bold] never entered the que for [bold]GOOD Manners[/bold] [italic] did you?[/italic]
UK Gov need extra children to fuel the work force instead of [bold]Foreign Imported Staff[/bold] as this is going to lead to a [bold]massive[/bold] National Community [bold]Law and Disorder crisis[/bold] soon.
I see you are another [bold]Gutless and faceless[/bold] person posting as a [bold]stupid Alias mmmmmmmm
[/bold]
People [italic]like you,[/italic] should be [bold]banned[/bold] from posting unless you use [bold]your Actual name Gutless.
[/bold]
[/quote] We do not need extra children we have plenty of Polish workers who do a very good job. And as far as being banned what about free speech.
Carl Barron wrote:
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 5:35pm today
Quote Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem, perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
Reply What a Dam cheek to say such a thing to anyone .
You never entered the que for GOOD Manners did you?
UK Gov need extra children to fuel the work force instead of Foreign Imported Staff as this is going to lead to a massive National Community Law and Disorder crisis soon.
I see you are another Gutless and faceless person posting as a stupid Alias mmmmmmmm
People like you, should be banned from posting unless you use your Actual name Gutless.
We do not need extra children we have plenty of Polish workers who do a very good job. And as far as being banned what about free speech.
Posted by: hoppity, hamworthy on 6:47am Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote][bold]mmmmmmmmmmmm[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]hoppity[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]mmmmmmmmmmmm[/bold] wrote: Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.[/quote] rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us[/quote] Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.[/quote] in that csse what if decide to build an extra bedroom for my dad who is 80 to have him live with us do i then pay tax on that room as i would be saving the country mpney on carers wages etc
mmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
hoppity wrote: mmmmmmmmmmmm wrote: Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.
rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us
Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
in that csse what if decide to build an extra bedroom for my dad who is 80 to have him live with us do i then pay tax on that room as i would be saving the country mpney on carers wages etc
Posted by: HAL101, Bournemouth on 9:06am Sun 20 Jul 08
laurie marsh, australia on 11:33am Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote]Maybe a window tax is in order?
This would even things out somewhat!
Maybe the politicians of 300 years ago could teach this present lot a thing or two about unfair taxation![/quote]If this council gets away with this then all councils will swiftly follow. Then more new taxes will be made up. This needs to be fought to a standstill.
Origins of the Council Tax ?
In 1696, William III of England introduced a type of property tax that required owners of houses with more than six windows to pay a levy. This tax apparently persisted up for over 150 years until 1851 when it was modified and renamed the 'House Duty', which appears to be the original Council Rates.
It is though that the saying 'daylight robbery' may have originated from this.
The tax would be paid on a house of more than six windows. Unfortunately none of these records appeared to have survived, but one way for a person to by pass the tax was to brick up one or two windows over the stated six. Even today on some of the very old houses the bricked up windows are still there to be seen.
In 1792 houses with 7-9 windows had to pay a tax of 2 shillings, and those people with property containing 10-19 windows would pay a tax of 4 shillings. In 1825 the number of widows taxable went from six to eight windows.
The Window Tax was replaced in 1851 with a tax called House Duty.
This is thought to be the origin of the council 'rates' and today's hated council tax.
Note, the above was ‘lifted and shifted’ from the Internet.
laurie marsh, australia on 11:33am Sat 19 Jul 08
Maybe a window tax is in order?
This would even things out somewhat!
Maybe the politicians of 300 years ago could teach this present lot a thing or two about unfair taxation!
If this council gets away with this then all councils will swiftly follow. Then more new taxes will be made up. This needs to be fought to a standstill.
Origins of the Council Tax ?
In 1696, William III of England introduced a type of property tax that required owners of houses with more than six windows to pay a levy. This tax apparently persisted up for over 150 years until 1851 when it was modified and renamed the 'House Duty', which appears to be the original Council Rates.
It is though that the saying 'daylight robbery' may have originated from this.
The tax would be paid on a house of more than six windows. Unfortunately none of these records appeared to have survived, but one way for a person to by pass the tax was to brick up one or two windows over the stated six. Even today on some of the very old houses the bricked up windows are still there to be seen.
In 1792 houses with 7-9 windows had to pay a tax of 2 shillings, and those people with property containing 10-19 windows would pay a tax of 4 shillings. In 1825 the number of widows taxable went from six to eight windows.
The Window Tax was replaced in 1851 with a tax called House Duty.
This is thought to be the origin of the council 'rates' and today's hated council tax.
Note, the above was ‘lifted and shifted’ from the Internet.
Posted by: Bigtone, Poole on 9:28am Sun 20 Jul 08
Cant wait for the "Fresh air" tax.Every person will be made to take a lung intake test then taxed accordingly.Thats where smokers will benefit.....LOL
Cant wait for the "Fresh air" tax.Every person will be made to take a lung intake test then taxed accordingly.Thats where smokers will benefit.....LOL
Posted by: HAL101, Bournemouth on 9:35am Sun 20 Jul 08
Bigtone, Poole on 9:28am today
As there is no fresh air in cities like London, any fresh air would be sold in bottles, which would be taxed.
So your 'fresh air' tax, suggested in jest, is already here!
Bigtone, Poole on 9:28am today
As there is no fresh air in cities like London, any fresh air would be sold in bottles, which would be taxed.
So your 'fresh air' tax, suggested in jest, is already here!
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 9:45am Sun 20 Jul 08
Following the logic of this tax, there would also be a similar levy on the bedrooms in vacant or second homes being sold to locals who would actually live in them. Now does that sound fair? No. This whole scheme is a misguided attempt to raise extra council revenue from locals. Let's hope the High Court sees sense and scuppers it. Otherwise it'll be rolled out nationally and we'll all be paying it.
Following the logic of this tax, there would also be a similar levy on the bedrooms in vacant or second homes being sold to locals who would actually live in them. Now does that sound fair? No. This whole scheme is a misguided attempt to raise extra council revenue from locals. Let's hope the High Court sees sense and scuppers it. Otherwise it'll be rolled out nationally and we'll all be paying it.
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 10:24am Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote][bold]hoppity[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]mmmmmmmmmmmm[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]hoppity[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]mmmmmmmmmmmm[/bold] wrote: Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.[/quote] rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us[/quote] Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.[/quote] in that csse what if decide to build an extra bedroom for my dad who is 80 to have him live with us do i then pay tax on that room as i would be saving the country mpney on carers wages etc[/quote] if your dad sold his property you should be ok building a room is probably a lot less then the value of his place so you stand to gain a lot.
hoppity wrote:
mmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
hoppity wrote: mmmmmmmmmmmm wrote: Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.
rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us
Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
in that csse what if decide to build an extra bedroom for my dad who is 80 to have him live with us do i then pay tax on that room as i would be saving the country mpney on carers wages etc
if your dad sold his property you should be ok building a room is probably a lot less then the value of his place so you stand to gain a lot.
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 10:25am Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote][bold]hoppity[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]mmmmmmmmmmmm[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]hoppity[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]mmmmmmmmmmmm[/bold] wrote: Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.[/quote] rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us[/quote] Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.[/quote] in that csse what if decide to build an extra bedroom for my dad who is 80 to have him live with us do i then pay tax on that room as i would be saving the country mpney on carers wages etc[/quote] if your dad sold his property you should be ok building a room is probably a lot less then the value of his place so you stand to gain a lot.
hoppity wrote:
mmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
hoppity wrote: mmmmmmmmmmmm wrote: Lets be fair here it is a small tax to pay consider the amount it puts value on a property and also a extra room creates a extra person and car in most cases.
rubbish my daughter and son in law need to put an extra bedroom as they have 3 girls and a boy in 3 bed house,the kids don't drive so no extra person on the road why should the government get an more tax the already pay council tax, both of them work paynig tax and national insurance,what more are the going to squeeze out out of us
Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
in that csse what if decide to build an extra bedroom for my dad who is 80 to have him live with us do i then pay tax on that room as i would be saving the country mpney on carers wages etc
if your dad sold his property you should be ok building a room is probably a lot less then the value of his place so you stand to gain a lot.
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 11:03am Sun 20 Jul 08
In response to 'mmmmmmmmmmmm', this tax will affect a lot of ordinary people who are already feeling the effects of the credit crunch. It was only ever intended for commercial developers and so Purbeck council's use of it on householders is a total abuse of power. How anyone can condone this is unbelievable. I take it you work for the council?! Either that or you're a disgruntled person who doesn't own their own property.
In response to 'mmmmmmmmmmmm', this tax will affect a lot of ordinary people who are already feeling the effects of the credit crunch. It was only ever intended for commercial developers and so Purbeck council's use of it on householders is a total abuse of power. How anyone can condone this is unbelievable. I take it you work for the council?! Either that or you're a disgruntled person who doesn't own their own property.
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 11:05am Sun 20 Jul 08
Also, you make a lot of assumptions. How do you know that hoppity's dad owns his own property? He may be renting.
Also, you make a lot of assumptions. How do you know that hoppity's dad owns his own property? He may be renting.
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 11:06am Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote]Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.[/quote] So you've finally admitted it: it's really a tax on children.
Well if they choose to have extra kids thats there problem,perhaps they should of took that into consideration when they done there family planing.
So you've finally admitted it: it's really a tax on children.
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 11:20am Sun 20 Jul 08
HAL101,
My 300 year quote was lifted too!
HAL101,
My 300 year quote was lifted too!
Posted by: hoppity, hamworthy on 1:51pm Sun 20 Jul 08
mmmmmmm makes a lot of assumptions about a lot of things I reckon, my dad does rent so if I looked after him I would save the state a lot of money in either home care or a nursing home as he has no assests of his own despite working hard all his life, he spent it bringing up his family. And for your information the reason my daugheter and family have 4 kids is that her husband was bringing up his daughters as their mother left him to it so when my daughter and he got married they wanted two of their own, as I said they both work and do not expect the state to fund their family so why should they or anyone be penalised for wanting an extra room, paid for with their hard earned money.
mmmmmmm makes a lot of assumptions about a lot of things I reckon, my dad does rent so if I looked after him I would save the state a lot of money in either home care or a nursing home as he has no assests of his own despite working hard all his life, he spent it bringing up his family. And for your information the reason my daugheter and family have 4 kids is that her husband was bringing up his daughters as their mother left him to it so when my daughter and he got married they wanted two of their own, as I said they both work and do not expect the state to fund their family so why should they or anyone be penalised for wanting an extra room, paid for with their hard earned money.
Posted by: Carl Barron, Dorset on 8:54pm Sun 20 Jul 08
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 11:57pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[bold]Quote [/bold] We do not need extra children we have plenty of Polish workers who do a very good job. And as far as being banned what about free speech.
[bold]Reply [/bold] Your posts are [bold]arrogant, ignorant, and dam rude[/bold] .
You positively come from an [bold]Uneducated Family[/bold] who most probably [bold]Disowned you[/bold] due to your extremely [bold]bad manners[/bold] , etc.
Most other posters do so in a [bold]positive constructive manner,[/bold] whilst you are trying to be [bold]totally provocative[/bold] with your [bold]stupid[/bold] comments.
You are a [bold]Gutless and faceless [/bold] person posting as a stupid Alias mmmmmmmm
[bold]Get a life and grow up.[/bold]
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 11:57pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Quote We do not need extra children we have plenty of Polish workers who do a very good job. And as far as being banned what about free speech.
Reply Your posts are
arrogant, ignorant, and dam rude .
You positively come from an
Uneducated Family who most probably
Disowned you due to your extremely
bad manners , etc.
Most other posters do so in a
positive constructive manner, whilst you are trying to be
totally provocative with your
stupid comments.
You are a
Gutless and faceless person posting as a stupid Alias mmmmmmmm
Get a life and grow up.
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