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It's war on school parking dunces
DRIVERS who park dangerously outside schools are facing an official crackdown - a year after the Daily Echo started highlighting the problem.
From Easter, Bournemouth council will make it a priority to tackle the issue at seven schools identified by the road safety team.
The Daily Echo has been visiting schools for a year, documenting how parents park recklessly on double yellow lines and zigzags when dropping off or collecting their children.
Yesterday the council announced it would spend between £3,000 and £4,000 putting up signs, painting new road markings and providing information to schools and parents.
Parking attendants will visit the schools regularly to dish out £70 fines to parents seen parking on the zigzags. But the council does not plan to employ extra enforcement officers.
The seven schools to be targeted are Kingsleigh Primary School, Kinson Primary School, Elmrise Primary School, St Peter's Catholic Comprehensive School, Hill View Primary School, Malmesbury Park Primary School and Moordown St John Church of England Primary School.
During the Daily Echo's school campaign we visited five of these seven schools and found evidence of parents parking dangerously, but these are not the only schools in the area to have problems with parents' parking.
The council plans to phase in the arrangements to every school in Bournemouth over the coming months.
Cllr Robert Lawton, cabinet member responsible for environment and transport, said: "Unfortunately the problem of illegal parking outside schools is common throughout the borough.
"However, we are determined to act in order to ensure the safety of our school children by continuing to work with schools to raise awareness and encourage alternative ways to travel to school.
"We do recognise that some children do need to travel by car. I hope those motorists who have caused problems in the past will think more carefully and park in a more suitable place when dropping off and collecting their children from school."
7:00pm Friday 22nd February 2008
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CommentPosted by: PETE WOODLEY on 7:06pm Fri 22 Feb 08
At last,lets hope things will get done,and the council do not let us all down.
At last,lets hope things will get done,and the council do not let us all down.
Posted by: Geoff, Kinson on 7:40pm Fri 22 Feb 08
About time !
Hope this is not the usual hot air from the Council !
About time !
Hope this is not the usual hot air from the Council !
Posted by: Nigel Gillespie, Bournemouth on 8:42pm Fri 22 Feb 08
I agree with Geoff.About time.They are a year behind the Kinson SNT(Dorset Police)who have single handedly dealt with this matter.And if the council officers were as dedicated and deployed human resources to support Kinson SNT this would have been solved ages ago.Lets hope these parents will stay off the private drives.Yes,They even park on your private drive!
I agree with Geoff.About time.They are a year behind the Kinson SNT(Dorset Police)who have single handedly dealt with this matter.And if the council officers were as dedicated and deployed human resources to support Kinson SNT this would have been solved ages ago.Lets hope these parents will stay off the private drives.Yes,They even park on your private drive!
Posted by: Liz, Poole on 9:31pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Yesterday the council announced it would spend between £3,000 and £4,000 putting up signs, painting new road markings and providing information to schools and parents.
What a waste of time and money. We have the same problem in Poole and we have done all of the above, but guess what, still nobody takes any notice. The council say they will send Parking officers around, how many schools in the borough and how many parking officers will visit and how often bothe beginning and end of the day??? Come on council think again
Yesterday the council announced it would spend between £3,000 and £4,000 putting up signs, painting new road markings and providing information to schools and parents.
What a waste of time and money. We have the same problem in Poole and we have done all of the above, but guess what, still nobody takes any notice. The council say they will send Parking officers around, how many schools in the borough and how many parking officers will visit and how often bothe beginning and end of the day??? Come on council think again
Posted by: Karen on 10:33pm Fri 22 Feb 08
I really can't believe how this has escalated. It's like a 1400's witch hunt.
Don't people understand that we're at where we're at because of do-gooders and politics?
There is no more danger to our children today than there was 50 years ago.
We are in an age of soapbox politics where everyone thinks they have the right to appeal. I stand on my soap box to shout that people really need to shut the f**k up and get on with their lives in the context of what is really going on.
This means, in short, a bog load more mothers now work as opposed to years ago when most mothers didn't and had the luxury of walking, talking and partaking in coffee morning with similarly placed mothers. Now, most mothers have to be working; cleaners, taxi drivers, cooks, lovers and some.
I would love a poll to be produced where we could vote as to what we actually do.
I'll lay your questions to rest here.. I do not take my children to school in a car but I am a working mother who certainly has feelings for those that have no choice. Please do not suggest that leaving 30 minutes earlier would solve the problem because it doesn't. With young children you have to deliver them to the classroom door hoping the teacher will be on time otherwise you'll be late for work.
Stop all this nonsense talk about inappropriate parking and provide adequate drop-off parking instead. If we're bound by law to protect our children, at least bloody well accept that we need a little lea-way in executing this!
I think I'm going to take a week off work (holiday) and interview drop-off mothers as to their needs and requirements rather than tar them with a blackened brush about parking illegally!
I really can't believe how this has escalated. It's like a 1400's witch hunt.
Don't people understand that we're at where we're at because of do-gooders and politics?
There is no more danger to our children today than there was 50 years ago.
We are in an age of soapbox politics where everyone thinks they have the right to appeal. I stand on my soap box to shout that people really need to shut the f**k up and get on with their lives in the context of what is really going on.
This means, in short, a bog load more mothers now work as opposed to years ago when most mothers didn't and had the luxury of walking, talking and partaking in coffee morning with similarly placed mothers. Now, most mothers have to be working; cleaners, taxi drivers, cooks, lovers and some.
I would love a poll to be produced where we could vote as to what we actually do.
I'll lay your questions to rest here.. I do not take my children to school in a car but I am a working mother who certainly has feelings for those that have no choice. Please do not suggest that leaving 30 minutes earlier would solve the problem because it doesn't. With young children you have to deliver them to the classroom door hoping the teacher will be on time otherwise you'll be late for work.
Stop all this nonsense talk about inappropriate parking and provide adequate drop-off parking instead. If we're bound by law to protect our children, at least bloody well accept that we need a little lea-way in executing this!
I think I'm going to take a week off work (holiday) and interview drop-off mothers as to their needs and requirements rather than tar them with a blackened brush about parking illegally!
Posted by: scooteria, Westbourne on 12:50am Sat 23 Feb 08
Well said, Karen.
I don't have the time to read this website that often, but I find the same names cropping up with their ridiculous comments, which they're entitled to of course, but none of them seem in touch with reality.
Maybe they're made-up names in order to boost the Echo's anti-dropping-off
campaign. Surely the Echo can find a more suitable target rather than alienate a large percentage of its readership.[quote]quote[/quote] [quote]quote[/quote]
Well said, Karen.
I don't have the time to read this website that often, but I find the same names cropping up with their ridiculous comments, which they're entitled to of course, but none of them seem in touch with reality.
Maybe they're made-up names in order to boost the Echo's anti-dropping-off
campaign. Surely the Echo can find a more suitable target rather than alienate a large percentage of its readership.
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Posted by: Chris, Ensbury Park on 1:49am Sat 23 Feb 08
[italic][bold]By Karen: With young children you have to deliver them to the classroom door hoping the teacher will be on time otherwise you'll be late for work[/bold] .
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Your comments are well and truly understood, however, I would like to suggest that you contact your school with the PTFA and get something sorted with regards to entry to school.
I have worked at one or two schools, and the children are left at the gate, with a number of teachers present on the gate and in the play grounds. Gates open at 8.30 and children go in at 8.50. This allowed parents to continue on their way, in particular those who had work to go to, and the use of a car.
No one is denying the use of cars, well I am not anyway, what the objective is, is to try and get some sort of management in the way cars are used and parked within the school area. I can assure you it is dangerous, having had a few near misses myself with late mums driving in at the last moment etc. Also I have witnessed injuries to children, mostly minor thankfully.
Safety is paramount, which ever view one takes.
By Karen: With young children you have to deliver them to the classroom door hoping the teacher will be on time otherwise you'll be late for work .
Your comments are well and truly understood, however, I would like to suggest that you contact your school with the PTFA and get something sorted with regards to entry to school.
I have worked at one or two schools, and the children are left at the gate, with a number of teachers present on the gate and in the play grounds. Gates open at 8.30 and children go in at 8.50. This allowed parents to continue on their way, in particular those who had work to go to, and the use of a car.
No one is denying the use of cars, well I am not anyway, what the objective is, is to try and get some sort of management in the way cars are used and parked within the school area. I can assure you it is dangerous, having had a few near misses myself with late mums driving in at the last moment etc. Also I have witnessed injuries to children, mostly minor thankfully.
Safety is paramount, which ever view one takes.
Posted by: TJC, bournemouth on 6:44am Sat 23 Feb 08
the irresponsible few are making it difficult for the responsible majority - youve all had enough warning that there would be an escalation of action on this issue and not sorted yourselves out. so, and as always, someone in authority has to intervene to bring a level of enforced responsibility to the table - well here it comes and its going to be a costly exersise for the ignorant. tough eh .....good,nice to see it
the irresponsible few are making it difficult for the responsible majority - youve all had enough warning that there would be an escalation of action on this issue and not sorted yourselves out. so, and as always, someone in authority has to intervene to bring a level of enforced responsibility to the table - well here it comes and its going to be a costly exersise for the ignorant. tough eh .....good,nice to see it
Posted by: TJC, bournemouth on 6:46am Sat 23 Feb 08
the irresponsible few are making it difficult for the responsible majority - youve all had enough warning that there would be an escalation of action on this issue and not sorted yourselves out. so, and as always, someone in authority has to intervene to bring a level of enforced responsibility to the table - well here it comes and its going to be a costly exersise for the ignorant. tough eh .....good,nice to see it
the irresponsible few are making it difficult for the responsible majority - youve all had enough warning that there would be an escalation of action on this issue and not sorted yourselves out. so, and as always, someone in authority has to intervene to bring a level of enforced responsibility to the table - well here it comes and its going to be a costly exersise for the ignorant. tough eh .....good,nice to see it
Posted by: silky, Bournemouth on 7:55am Sat 23 Feb 08
Here here TJC. Bring it on.
Here here TJC. Bring it on.
Posted by: PokesdownMark, Pokesdown on 9:03am Sat 23 Feb 08
Fine words TJC, but you cannot really think that this action will make any difference? The amount of money from the council is just a token amount to get this ridiculous campaign off their backs.
Fine words TJC, but you cannot really think that this action will make any difference? The amount of money from the council is just a token amount to get this ridiculous campaign off their backs.
Posted by: Tan, Bournemouth on 10:14am Sat 23 Feb 08
The school my son attends has a huge car park on the side of the school but still they park on the pavement, yellow lines and grass verges. Come on Karen and the people who agree with her, all the excuses in the world don't stop the truth - these people don't care about anybody but themselves (not you child, mine or even their own).
I live in the real world and I know not everyone has time to waste but if you have kids make time for them or don't have them! You work to live not live to work.
The school my son attends has a huge car park on the side of the school but still they park on the pavement, yellow lines and grass verges. Come on Karen and the people who agree with her, all the excuses in the world don't stop the truth - these people don't care about anybody but themselves (not you child, mine or even their own).
I live in the real world and I know not everyone has time to waste but if you have kids make time for them or don't have them! You work to live not live to work.
Posted by: godzilla, poole on 10:38am Sat 23 Feb 08
Karen says;There is no more danger to our children today than there was 50 years ago. Whilst I respect your opinon as a working mother Karen, I have to strongly disagree with the above quote, it certainly is more dangerous now than it was 50 years ago. Families have more than 1 car for a start so therefore more traffic on our roads. I did the school run all last year with my 3 grandchildren(walkin
g) and noticed how SOME people are very careless as to how they park their cars. It is not a witch hunt but the perspective and opinons of people who experience the everyday hazards of dropping off children
Karen says;There is no more danger to our children today than there was 50 years ago. Whilst I respect your opinon as a working mother Karen, I have to strongly disagree with the above quote, it certainly is more dangerous now than it was 50 years ago. Families have more than 1 car for a start so therefore more traffic on our roads. I did the school run all last year with my 3 grandchildren(walkin
g) and noticed how SOME people are very careless as to how they park their cars. It is not a witch hunt but the perspective and opinons of people who experience the everyday hazards of dropping off children
Posted by: Richard, Bournemouth on 10:43am Sat 23 Feb 08
The minority who abuse the situation are the same sorts that will park in disabled bays at Supermarkets. It's selfish and lazy and there are no excuses.
The minority who abuse the situation are the same sorts that will park in disabled bays at Supermarkets. It's selfish and lazy and there are no excuses.
Posted by: Donna, Poole on 3:25pm Sat 23 Feb 08
My school is awful and someone will be killed before long. If these ignorant people who park their cars on the verges and on other peoples drives, on pavements etc, can not see the danger. Then we need to make sure that it is stopped. I walk further with my child than most of the people that drive cars do. They do not care about the children walking up the road, they fly up the road in a hurry to drop the kids off. There is a car park just around the corner. Leave earlier go to the carpark. Walk your child to school and stop putting others in danger because you are in a hurry. Someone parked across someones drive the other week. The man came out and asked her not to block the drive please. Then found himself having to justify why she could not park there. Some people are so **** ignorant it is unbelievable.
My school is awful and someone will be killed before long. If these ignorant people who park their cars on the verges and on other peoples drives, on pavements etc, can not see the danger. Then we need to make sure that it is stopped. I walk further with my child than most of the people that drive cars do. They do not care about the children walking up the road, they fly up the road in a hurry to drop the kids off. There is a car park just around the corner. Leave earlier go to the carpark. Walk your child to school and stop putting others in danger because you are in a hurry. Someone parked across someones drive the other week. The man came out and asked her not to block the drive please. Then found himself having to justify why she could not park there. Some people are so **** ignorant it is unbelievable.
Posted by: TJC, bournemouth on 6:15pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Donna[/bold] wrote:
My school is awful and someone will be killed before long. If these ignorant people who park their cars on the verges and on other peoples drives, on pavements etc, can not see the danger. Then we need to make sure that it is stopped. I walk further with my child than most of the people that drive cars do. They do not care about the children walking up the road, they fly up the road in a hurry to drop the kids off. There is a car park just around the corner. Leave earlier go to the carpark. Walk your child to school and stop putting others in danger because you are in a hurry. Someone parked across someones drive the other week. The man came out and asked her not to block the drive please. Then found himself having to justify why she could not park there. Some people are so **** ignorant it is unbelievable.[/quote] well a little advice .if anyone parks across your drive ,make sure their tyres are flat when they return - it wont happen twice ,trust me !!
Donna wrote:
My school is awful and someone will be killed before long. If these ignorant people who park their cars on the verges and on other peoples drives, on pavements etc, can not see the danger. Then we need to make sure that it is stopped. I walk further with my child than most of the people that drive cars do. They do not care about the children walking up the road, they fly up the road in a hurry to drop the kids off. There is a car park just around the corner. Leave earlier go to the carpark. Walk your child to school and stop putting others in danger because you are in a hurry. Someone parked across someones drive the other week. The man came out and asked her not to block the drive please. Then found himself having to justify why she could not park there. Some people are so **** ignorant it is unbelievable.
well a little advice .if anyone parks across your drive ,make sure their tyres are flat when they return - it wont happen twice ,trust me !!
Posted by: TJC, bournemouth on 6:17pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]PokesdownMark[/bold] wrote:
Fine words TJC, but you cannot really think that this action will make any difference? The amount of money from the council is just a token amount to get this ridiculous campaign off their backs.
[/quote] to be seen i guess... you may be right ...ignorance knows no boundaries and respects nothing
PokesdownMark wrote:
Fine words TJC, but you cannot really think that this action will make any difference? The amount of money from the council is just a token amount to get this ridiculous campaign off their backs.
to be seen i guess... you may be right ...ignorance knows no boundaries and respects nothing
Posted by: TJC, bournemouth on 6:18pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]PokesdownMark[/bold] wrote:
Fine words TJC, but you cannot really think that this action will make any difference? The amount of money from the council is just a token amount to get this ridiculous campaign off their backs.
[/quote] to be seen i guess... you may be right ...ignorance knows no boundaries and respects nothing
PokesdownMark wrote:
Fine words TJC, but you cannot really think that this action will make any difference? The amount of money from the council is just a token amount to get this ridiculous campaign off their backs.
to be seen i guess... you may be right ...ignorance knows no boundaries and respects nothing
Posted by: Donna, Poole on 10:03pm Sat 23 Feb 08
wow TJC we actually agree on something haha.
wow TJC we actually agree on something haha.
Posted by: TJC, bournemouth on 11:20pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Donna[/bold] wrote:
wow TJC we actually agree on something haha.[/quote] you'll be proposing next my angel xx i dont disagree with you Donna i just have a different point of view,its not the same thing
Donna wrote:
wow TJC we actually agree on something haha.
you'll be proposing next my angel xx i dont disagree with you Donna i just have a different point of view,its not the same thing
Posted by: TJC, bournemouth on 11:22pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Donna[/bold] wrote:
wow TJC we actually agree on something haha.[/quote] you'll be proposing next my angel xx i dont disagree with you Donna i just have a different point of view,its not the same thing
Donna wrote:
wow TJC we actually agree on something haha.
you'll be proposing next my angel xx i dont disagree with you Donna i just have a different point of view,its not the same thing
Posted by: Chris McColl, Bournemouth on 11:50pm Sat 23 Feb 08
Karen's words amply sum up the greedy, self centred society we have become - 'I do what I want and f*** everyone else'.
Any wonder kids are growing up with no respect. There is far, far more danger to kids nowadays simply from car drivers. Car drivers with the same pig ignorant attitude as Karen expresses.
If i am a do gooder then fine, please understand though what the opposite is.
Karen's words amply sum up the greedy, self centred society we have become - 'I do what I want and f*** everyone else'.
Any wonder kids are growing up with no respect. There is far, far more danger to kids nowadays simply from car drivers. Car drivers with the same pig ignorant attitude as Karen expresses.
If i am a do gooder then fine, please understand though what the opposite is.
Posted by: Bigtone, Poole on 7:29am Sun 24 Feb 08
If anybody is caught and fined £70 after this then it just shows how dumb they are.I think any driver male or female caught parking dangerously outside schools especially should be banned from driving for a month and forced to walk thier kids to school.That might get some excess weight off them.Thats why these overweight lazy drivers park in the disabled bays.I cannot stop laughing when I see them in supermarket car parks driving round and round trying to get a space as near to the entrance as they can.By that time Ive done my shopping :O)
And they wonder why they are overweight or stupid.
If anybody is caught and fined £70 after this then it just shows how dumb they are.I think any driver male or female caught parking dangerously outside schools especially should be banned from driving for a month and forced to walk thier kids to school.That might get some excess weight off them.Thats why these overweight lazy drivers park in the disabled bays.I cannot stop laughing when I see them in supermarket car parks driving round and round trying to get a space as near to the entrance as they can.By that time Ive done my shopping :O)
And they wonder why they are overweight or stupid.
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 9:43am Sun 24 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Chris McColl[/bold] wrote:
Karen's words amply sum up the greedy, self centred society we have become - 'I do what I want and f*** everyone else'.
Any wonder kids are growing up with no respect. There is far, far more danger to kids nowadays simply from car drivers. Car drivers with the same pig ignorant attitude as Karen expresses.
If i am a do gooder then fine, please understand though what the opposite is.[/quote] Well said. Karen also admits to parking in disabled bays. I think that puts her comments on school parking into perspective.
Chris McColl wrote:
Karen's words amply sum up the greedy, self centred society we have become - 'I do what I want and f*** everyone else'.
Any wonder kids are growing up with no respect. There is far, far more danger to kids nowadays simply from car drivers. Car drivers with the same pig ignorant attitude as Karen expresses.
If i am a do gooder then fine, please understand though what the opposite is.
Well said. Karen also admits to parking in disabled bays. I think that puts her comments on school parking into perspective.
Posted by: Freddie, poole dorset on 10:17am Sun 24 Feb 08
I'm with you TJC, its always the minority and it just needs a heavy punishment to make the law stick.
I'm with you TJC, its always the minority and it just needs a heavy punishment to make the law stick.
Posted by: PokesdownMark, Pokesdown on 10:41am Sun 24 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Freddie[/bold] wrote:
I'm with you TJC, its always the minority and it just needs a heavy punishment to make the law stick.[/quote] That line of thinking leads to a police state where innocent people inadvertently end up being 'heavily' punished. Like a fine young man being forced to hand over £70 for leaving a train one station early.
There are existing laws that govern parking. In this case they just need to be [italic]enforced[/italic].
Freddie wrote:
I'm with you TJC, its always the minority and it just needs a heavy punishment to make the law stick.
That line of thinking leads to a police state where innocent people inadvertently end up being 'heavily' punished. Like a fine young man being forced to hand over £70 for leaving a train one station early.
There are existing laws that govern parking. In this case they just need to be
enforced.
Posted by: scooteria, Westbourne on 3:34pm Sun 24 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Phil[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Chris McColl[/bold] wrote: Karen's words amply sum up the greedy, self centred society we have become - 'I do what I want and f*** everyone else'. Any wonder kids are growing up with no respect. There is far, far more danger to kids nowadays simply from car drivers. Car drivers with the same pig ignorant attitude as Karen expresses. If i am a do gooder then fine, please understand though what the opposite is.[/quote] Well said. Karen also admits to parking in disabled bays. I think that puts her comments on school parking into perspective.[/quote] I must be receiving an edited version of this thread because I can't find any evidence of Karen saying the things in these quotes.
Phil wrote:
Chris McColl wrote: Karen's words amply sum up the greedy, self centred society we have become - 'I do what I want and f*** everyone else'. Any wonder kids are growing up with no respect. There is far, far more danger to kids nowadays simply from car drivers. Car drivers with the same pig ignorant attitude as Karen expresses. If i am a do gooder then fine, please understand though what the opposite is.
Well said. Karen also admits to parking in disabled bays. I think that puts her comments on school parking into perspective.
I must be receiving an edited version of this thread because I can't find any evidence of Karen saying the things in these quotes.
Posted by: mar, poole on 6:33pm Sun 24 Feb 08
poole council spent thousands of pounds at St. Aldhelm's school, and if anything, its actually worse than before, drivers just ignore all the signs and yellow lines.
poole council spent thousands of pounds at St. Aldhelm's school, and if anything, its actually worse than before, drivers just ignore all the signs and yellow lines.
Posted by: mar, poole on 6:38pm Sun 24 Feb 08
poole council spent thousands of pounds at St. Aldhelm's school, and if anything, its actually worse than before, drivers just ignore all the signs and yellow lines.
poole council spent thousands of pounds at St. Aldhelm's school, and if anything, its actually worse than before, drivers just ignore all the signs and yellow lines.
Posted by: uticad, Sunny Bormuff!! on 9:11pm Sun 24 Feb 08
Karen wrote "Stop all this nonsense talk about inappropriate parking and provide adequate drop-off parking instead. If we're bound by law to protect our children, at least bloody well accept that we need a little lea-way in executing this!"
What the hell is wrong with walking a few yards??
I live less than 50metres from a school, there is plenty of SAFE parking just 100metres round the corner...BUT ALL YOU LAZY MOTHERS WON't USE IT, because it means WALKING a few metres. You'd rather foul up the yellow school entrance markings, so you can let little 'kiddy' out quickly, meaning you don't have to park the 'chelsea tractor, (which most of you can't do anyway!) and also saves a few more precious minutes for to apply the makeup.
Any decent parent would at least have the guts to park nearby, and walk, rather than take the attitude you do, and spout a load of cobblers to justify your actions !!!
Karen wrote "Stop all this nonsense talk about inappropriate parking and provide adequate drop-off parking instead. If we're bound by law to protect our children, at least bloody well accept that we need a little lea-way in executing this!"
What the hell is wrong with walking a few yards??
I live less than 50metres from a school, there is plenty of SAFE parking just 100metres round the corner...BUT ALL YOU LAZY MOTHERS WON't USE IT, because it means WALKING a few metres. You'd rather foul up the yellow school entrance markings, so you can let little 'kiddy' out quickly, meaning you don't have to park the 'chelsea tractor, (which most of you can't do anyway!) and also saves a few more precious minutes for to apply the makeup.
Any decent parent would at least have the guts to park nearby, and walk, rather than take the attitude you do, and spout a load of cobblers to justify your actions !!!
Posted by: Rosettio, East Anglia on 8:06am Thu 28 Feb 08
So much for christianity then...one school is Catholic and another is C of E. It's enough to turn you to Buddhism.
So much for christianity then...one school is Catholic and another is C of E. It's enough to turn you to Buddhism.
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