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Which bit of 'no parking' don't they understand?
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| ANGER: This man got out of his car at a junction to remonstrate with one of the civil enforcement officers |
A SMATTERING of abuse, blank incomprehension and a round of applause greeted two parking wardens outside a Bournemouth primary school.
The Daily Echo has been campaigning to prevent dangerous parking outside schools for more than a year but this week we visited a Bournemouth primary school with a couple of professionals.
Before the civil enforcement officers, parking wardens to you and me, turned up at St Michael's school, Somerville Road, was lined with cars on the single yellow lines waiting for children to finish school.
A few cars were displaying disabled stickers, which give them the right to park there, but most were just too lazy or too inconsiderate to park safely around the corner.
Then Bournemouth Borough Council's civil enforcement officers 54 and 42 arrived and by politely asking people to move they cleared the road ensuring it was safe for the children coming out of school.
Number 54 (they go by number rather than names for their own protection) said: "We try to explain to parents that by parking on a yellow line they are putting their child and other people's children at risk.
"Usually we approach people with a smile, try and have a bit of banter and explain to them why they can't park here.
"We tell them there is a car park just around the corner which they can get a year permit for £14."
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| PENALTY: A civil enforcement officer gives this motorist a ticket for parking in a disabled bay without displaying a blue badge, near St Michael's School, Bournemouth |
Number 42 said: "If we weren't here it would be heaving and we've seen children run out between cars parked on the yellow lines. It doesn't matter if they're a 4x4 or a mini, the child still can't see what's coming down the road.
"We're just asking people to think about children's safety and it doesn't take a great deal of time or effort to park safely."
She added: "Since the Daily Echo has been running the Parking Mad campaign it has been fantastic, people are more aware of the issues."
Several parents were pleased to see the officers. One mum even started a round of applause!
But not everyone responds positively to parking wardens and in the course of their duties the officers have been spat at, shouted at and threatened. Number 42 said she regularly felt scared and intimidated in the course of her work. And once during his five year career as a civil enforcement officer number 54 was attacked with a tyre lever.
He said: "The people don't know me personally and I hope if they did they'd like me, but you get abuse because of the uniform."
A little later an angry man asked the parking wardens: "Haven't you got somewhere better to be?"
Number 54 said: "I just don't understand it. Surely making sure children are safe is the most important place for us to be. Some parents don't seem to understand why I'm having a word with them but they would be the first person to start shouting if their child was hit by a car."
Amazingly, despite the civil enforcement officers obviously standing by the side of the road, several parents still pulled up on the single yellow lines.
We saw some pull up on the yellow line outside the school gates and a van park in the bus stop.
In most cases they were asked to move and did so, but one man who left his car in a disabled parking bay received a ticket.
The parking wardens are fighting a difficult battle and they cannot be at all schools, but parents be warned - parking dangerously outside schools will not be tolerated.
7:00pm Wednesday 23rd April 2008
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CommentPosted by: PETE WOODLEY on 7:06pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Dont get too polite,BOOK THEM,thats what the job entails,they have all had enough warnings especially from the ECHO, by continuing to park illegally they are flaunting the law.
Dont get too polite,BOOK THEM,thats what the job entails,they have all had enough warnings especially from the ECHO, by continuing to park illegally they are flaunting the law.
Posted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 8:26pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Pete you and I agree on this subject I most serves the parents right if they are fined that's what yellow lines are for to stop illegal and dangerous parking
Pete you and I agree on this subject I most serves the parents right if they are fined that's what yellow lines are for to stop illegal and dangerous parking
Posted by: nessie, bournemouth on 9:48pm Wed 23 Apr 08
these people should have their cars confiscated then thet would have to walk making the kids walk then maybe we wouldn't have so many obese kids
these people should have their cars confiscated then thet would have to walk making the kids walk then maybe we wouldn't have so many obese kids
Posted by: Maria, christchurch on 10:49pm Wed 23 Apr 08
I don't understand, why have they not given out tickets. This is the only way to stop it, bet parents are back to their normal lazy ways tommorow.
I don't understand, why have they not given out tickets. This is the only way to stop it, bet parents are back to their normal lazy ways tommorow.
Posted by: Robert Ratcliffe, poole on 10:54pm Wed 23 Apr 08
[quote][bold]nessie[/bold] wrote:
these people should have their cars confiscated then thet would have to walk making the kids walk then maybe we wouldn't have so many obese kids[/quote] what a stupid comment, you must be backward
nessie wrote:
these people should have their cars confiscated then thet would have to walk making the kids walk then maybe we wouldn't have so many obese kids
what a stupid comment, you must be backward
Posted by: SW, Bournemouth on 11:04pm Wed 23 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Robert Ratcliffe[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]nessie[/bold] wrote:
these people should have their cars confiscated then thet would have to walk making the kids walk then maybe we wouldn't have so many obese kids[/quote] what a stupid comment, you must be backward[/quote] What a stupid comment? Must you be so arrogant and rude?
Robert Ratcliffe wrote:
nessie wrote:
these people should have their cars confiscated then thet would have to walk making the kids walk then maybe we wouldn't have so many obese kids
what a stupid comment, you must be backward
What a stupid comment? Must you be so arrogant and rude?
Posted by: busman, Bournemouth on 1:03am Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Robert Ratcliffe[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]nessie[/bold] wrote:
these people should have their cars confiscated then thet would have to walk making the kids walk then maybe we wouldn't have so many obese kids[/quote] what a stupid comment, you must be backward[/quote] In what way is this a stupid comment? to dismiss someone as backward because you didnt read the comment properly is arrogant and extremely ignorant Next time think through what you're going to post before typing.
Robert Ratcliffe wrote:
nessie wrote:
these people should have their cars confiscated then thet would have to walk making the kids walk then maybe we wouldn't have so many obese kids
what a stupid comment, you must be backward
In what way is this a stupid comment? to dismiss someone as backward because you didnt read the comment properly is arrogant and extremely ignorant Next time think through what you're going to post before typing.
Posted by: PokesdownMark, Pokesdown on 7:51am Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote][bold]nessie[/bold] wrote:
these people should have their cars confiscated then thet would have to walk making the kids walk then maybe we wouldn't have so many obese kids[/quote] The problem with overweight kids is not helped by the false perception, created by our media, that the world is dangerous for children. Even this short article perpetuates this myth. The idea that children will be killed if they try to cross the road between parked cars. I'm not saying it isn't just a little harder for children (with a parent probably) to cross in those conditions. Its just a question of undue emphasis.
nessie wrote:
these people should have their cars confiscated then thet would have to walk making the kids walk then maybe we wouldn't have so many obese kids
The problem with overweight kids is not helped by the false perception, created by our media, that the world is dangerous for children. Even this short article perpetuates this myth. The idea that children will be killed if they try to cross the road between parked cars. I'm not saying it isn't just a little harder for children (with a parent probably) to cross in those conditions. Its just a question of undue emphasis.
Posted by: Phil, Poole on 9:08am Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote][bold]PETE WOODLEY[/bold] wrote:
Dont get too polite,BOOK THEM,thats what the job entails,they have all had enough warnings especially from the ECHO, by continuing to park illegally they are flaunting the law.[/quote] I totally agree. Dish out the tickets! The kind of lazy morons who park in this way will only take notice when they get hit in the pocket.
PETE WOODLEY wrote:
Dont get too polite,BOOK THEM,thats what the job entails,they have all had enough warnings especially from the ECHO, by continuing to park illegally they are flaunting the law.
I totally agree. Dish out the tickets! The kind of lazy morons who park in this way will only take notice when they get hit in the pocket.
Posted by: slash, Southbourne on 9:11am Thu 24 Apr 08
AM IN TOTAL SUPPORT OF "PARKING MAD CAMPAIGN",THE MOST SEVERE OUTCOME OF THEIR LAW BREAKING SHOULD WITHOUT QUESTION BE PRESENTED TO ALL THOSE GUILTY MINDLESS INDIVIDUALS.
AM IN TOTAL SUPPORT OF "PARKING MAD CAMPAIGN",THE MOST SEVERE OUTCOME OF THEIR LAW BREAKING SHOULD WITHOUT QUESTION BE PRESENTED TO ALL THOSE GUILTY MINDLESS INDIVIDUALS.
Posted by: simon, bournemouth on 9:46am Thu 24 Apr 08
What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.
What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.
Posted by: Angie, Bournemouth on 9:58am Thu 24 Apr 08
It's all very well telling the parents not to park on yellow lines and zigzag lines but would somebody tell the buses that stop on the zigzags outside the school, sometimes diagonally i might add. Surely if the children can't see behind a mini or a 4x4 they definitely won't be able to see around a bus!!
It's all very well telling the parents not to park on yellow lines and zigzag lines but would somebody tell the buses that stop on the zigzags outside the school, sometimes diagonally i might add. Surely if the children can't see behind a mini or a 4x4 they definitely won't be able to see around a bus!!
Posted by: cornman, Iford on 10:01am Thu 24 Apr 08
I totally agree that parents parking on yellow lines should get a ticket – this is the only way to stop this type of dangerous parking and should be extended to every school in the area.
What I do not understand is the right of cars displaying disabled stickers to park on the yellow lines. [italic]“Number 54 (they go by number rather than names for their own protection) said: "We try to explain to parents that by parking on a yellow line they are putting their child and other people's children at risk.”[/italic] Do the cars displaying disabled stickers not cause a danger?
I would welcome extra disabled parking bays around schools but do not understand why they can park on yellow lines when it is deemed to be dangerous for other cars to park there.
I totally agree that parents parking on yellow lines should get a ticket – this is the only way to stop this type of dangerous parking and should be extended to every school in the area.
What I do not understand is the right of cars displaying disabled stickers to park on the yellow lines.
“Number 54 (they go by number rather than names for their own protection) said: "We try to explain to parents that by parking on a yellow line they are putting their child and other people's children at risk.” Do the cars displaying disabled stickers not cause a danger?
I would welcome extra disabled parking bays around schools but do not understand why they can park on yellow lines when it is deemed to be dangerous for other cars to park there.
Posted by: Jonny, Alum Chine on 10:09am Thu 24 Apr 08
"A few cars were displaying disabled stickers, which give them the right to park there, but most were just too lazy or too inconsiderate to park safely around the corner."
Err I'm guessing the children aren't 'disabled'? If it's so dangerous how come they get to park there? Surely the children can walk to where the car park?
"A few cars were displaying disabled stickers, which give them the right to park there, but most were just too lazy or too inconsiderate to park safely around the corner."
Err I'm guessing the children aren't 'disabled'? If it's so dangerous how come they get to park there? Surely the children can walk to where the car park?
Posted by: Jonny, Alum Chine on 10:10am Thu 24 Apr 08
Snap!
Posted by: Tan, Bournemouth on 10:35am Thu 24 Apr 08
I walk my child halfway to school and all the way home, walking is better for both of us. However, the parking is awful around his school with cars and 4x4s parked on the pavement, double yellows and zigzags. Last term a child was hit by a car at the school but even that is not enough to make them understand the dangers.
I am not anti cars or drivers but they have to think about what they are doing and I agreed with parking wardens giving advice to help, if that doesn't work then they should get tickets every time they park dangerously.
This should not be an issue about cars, drivers, lazy or diasabled - this should be about childrens safety, it doesn't need abuse of anyone.
I walk my child halfway to school and all the way home, walking is better for both of us. However, the parking is awful around his school with cars and 4x4s parked on the pavement, double yellows and zigzags. Last term a child was hit by a car at the school but even that is not enough to make them understand the dangers.
I am not anti cars or drivers but they have to think about what they are doing and I agreed with parking wardens giving advice to help, if that doesn't work then they should get tickets every time they park dangerously.
This should not be an issue about cars, drivers, lazy or diasabled - this should be about childrens safety, it doesn't need abuse of anyone.
Posted by: DartGuru, Bournemouth on 11:31am Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote][bold]simon[/bold] wrote:
What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.[/quote] Is that because the illegally parked cars are blocking the bus stop, preventing it from stopping in there nice and neatly ?
simon wrote:
What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.
Is that because the illegally parked cars are blocking the bus stop, preventing it from stopping in there nice and neatly ?
Posted by: godzilla, poole on 11:47am Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote][bold]simon[/bold] wrote:
What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.[/quote] I do the school run all the time so can have a valid opinion i think. Some people are inconsiderate and lazy and yes I do live in the real world and parking outside schools has to be safe for the children and not to cater for the lazy people ( not everyone Im sure) who cant be bothered
simon wrote:
What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.
I do the school run all the time so can have a valid opinion i think. Some people are inconsiderate and lazy and yes I do live in the real world and parking outside schools has to be safe for the children and not to cater for the lazy people ( not everyone Im sure) who cant be bothered
Posted by: PokesdownMark, Pokesdown on 12:23pm Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote]I would welcome extra disabled parking bays around schools but do not understand why they can park on yellow lines when it is deemed to be dangerous for other cars to park there.[/quote]
Thats a [bold]very[/bold] good point. Also quite informative because it only makes sense if parked cars, legal or otherwise, presents no danger to children. Could this possibly be the case?!
Golly... that would mean the echo campaign had no actual basis in the real world. So that can't be correct, can it?! Surely the recorded accident statistics are what reveals dangers in the world. And the key questions is this: are there actual injuries and deaths being caused by parking near to schools. Note: [italic]caused by parking[/italic] . Thats the key question.
I no longer take my kids to school. They are now old enough to walk. But during the 10 years I did I experienced the mayhem first hand. Pokesdown entrance to King Park. Two way traffic. Some at 30mph (usually vans and the minibus that picks up kids for the council, ironically) some crawling to find a parking space. Quite a few 4x4s. Postmen on bikes - they often travel at fast for bikes. Passing cars that are reversing into spaces. You really needed your wits about you and it was great! Every day my kids got a lesson in crossing the road that was different. They had a few years with me telling them what I was looking for, why it was safe, watch out for that bike, see that car there indicating etc etc. Then they had a few years where they decided when we crossed. Excellent training. Really valuable because we rarely crossed any road all together like that. When the world throws you lemons make lemonade. Parking madness is a training ground for road safety. Lets keep it!
I would welcome extra disabled parking bays around schools but do not understand why they can park on yellow lines when it is deemed to be dangerous for other cars to park there.
Thats a
very good point. Also quite informative because it only makes sense if parked cars, legal or otherwise, presents no danger to children. Could this possibly be the case?!
Golly... that would mean the echo campaign had no actual basis in the real world. So that can't be correct, can it?! Surely the recorded accident statistics are what reveals dangers in the world. And the key questions is this: are there actual injuries and deaths being caused by parking near to schools. Note:
caused by parking . Thats the key question.
I no longer take my kids to school. They are now old enough to walk. But during the 10 years I did I experienced the mayhem first hand. Pokesdown entrance to King Park. Two way traffic. Some at 30mph (usually vans and the minibus that picks up kids for the council, ironically) some crawling to find a parking space. Quite a few 4x4s. Postmen on bikes - they often travel at fast for bikes. Passing cars that are reversing into spaces. You really needed your wits about you and it was great! Every day my kids got a lesson in crossing the road that was different. They had a few years with me telling them what I was looking for, why it was safe, watch out for that bike, see that car there indicating etc etc. Then they had a few years where they decided when we crossed. Excellent training. Really valuable because we rarely crossed any road all together like that. When the world throws you lemons make lemonade. Parking madness is a training ground for road safety. Lets keep it!
Posted by: Hunter, Bournemouth on 1:43pm Thu 24 Apr 08
[bold]Book them.[/bold]
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 5:38pm Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote][bold]simon[/bold] wrote:
What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.[/quote] Simon,get a brain,you are a typical loudmouth who mouths off to older people,but would never say a word to some of the bullies who park where they like,and might take a swing at him,these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion,all my life i have come across a lot of them,thats why i have been involved in so many fights,and still stand my ground at nearly 74,i despise bullying and bullies of any sort,and you Simon are one,and a nasty one.
simon wrote:
What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.
Simon,get a brain,you are a typical loudmouth who mouths off to older people,but would never say a word to some of the bullies who park where they like,and might take a swing at him,these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion,all my life i have come across a lot of them,thats why i have been involved in so many fights,and still stand my ground at nearly 74,i despise bullying and bullies of any sort,and you Simon are one,and a nasty one.
Posted by: Tim M, usa on 6:21pm Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote]Parking needs to be provided.[/quote]
No it doesn't, because there is no "right" to drive (it's a privilege) there's no entitlement to parking. Obey the laws as they apply to the area, which may not be correct in all cases (I agree that badly parked vehicles with disabled tags are no less of a hazard than badly parked cars belonging to the able-bodied) but they're laws all the same. It's simple stuff really.
In most cases where the "inconvenience" of a particular destination is at issue, the root of the inconvenience is more often than not the complainer's unwillingness to deal with the challenge in a manner that doesn't require some thought and sacrifice.
Parking needs to be provided.
No it doesn't, because there is no "right" to drive (it's a privilege) there's no entitlement to parking. Obey the laws as they apply to the area, which may not be correct in all cases (I agree that badly parked vehicles with disabled tags are no less of a hazard than badly parked cars belonging to the able-bodied) but they're laws all the same. It's simple stuff really.
In most cases where the "inconvenience" of a particular destination is at issue, the root of the inconvenience is more often than not the complainer's unwillingness to deal with the challenge in a manner that doesn't require some thought and sacrifice.
Posted by: Karen on 6:28pm Thu 24 Apr 08
Are the Echo really interested in the safety of children or selling more copies of their rag?
Are the Echo really interested in the safety of children or selling more copies of their rag?
Posted by: PokesdownMark, Pokesdown on 6:28pm Thu 24 Apr 08
Cameron wants to publish crime statistics on a map. Yes yes yes finally!!!! (Would be easy to include accidents too.) This man understands the benefits of supplying [italic]actual[/italic] info to the public.
If he promises to award the contact to an IT firm with fewer than 80 employees I'd be even more impressed.
Cameron wants to publish crime statistics on a map. Yes yes yes finally!!!! (Would be easy to include accidents too.) This man understands the benefits of supplying
actual info to the public.
If he promises to award the contact to an IT firm with fewer than 80 employees I'd be even more impressed.
Posted by: godzilla, poole on 7:03pm Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote][bold]PETE WOODLEY[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]simon[/bold] wrote: What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.[/quote] Simon,get a brain,you are a typical loudmouth who mouths off to older people,but would never say a word to some of the bullies who park where they like,and might take a swing at him,these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion,all my life i have come across a lot of them,thats why i have been involved in so many fights,and still stand my ground at nearly 74,i despise bullying and bullies of any sort,and you Simon are one,and a nasty one.[/quote] Pete,please stop thinking that evry person on here disagrees with you because they are anti age. We are not I am 54 somewhere around the middle age I hope and people of all woalks of life write on these threads and I ahve great respect for old and young. Not all younger people are idiots and you can be a bit touchy, also a thought to the young writers not all older people are grumpy and wrong
PETE WOODLEY wrote:
simon wrote: What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.
Simon,get a brain,you are a typical loudmouth who mouths off to older people,but would never say a word to some of the bullies who park where they like,and might take a swing at him,these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion,all my life i have come across a lot of them,thats why i have been involved in so many fights,and still stand my ground at nearly 74,i despise bullying and bullies of any sort,and you Simon are one,and a nasty one.
Pete,please stop thinking that evry person on here disagrees with you because they are anti age. We are not I am 54 somewhere around the middle age I hope and people of all woalks of life write on these threads and I ahve great respect for old and young. Not all younger people are idiots and you can be a bit touchy, also a thought to the young writers not all older people are grumpy and wrong
Posted by: godzilla, poole on 7:04pm Thu 24 Apr 08
oops excuse spelling in the above i left my glasses at work
oops excuse spelling in the above i left my glasses at work
Posted by: Trifecta, Southbourne on 7:17pm Thu 24 Apr 08
"Are the Echo really interested in the safety of children or selling more copies of their rag?"
I doubt that the Echo really give a toss about sales, the money is in the adverts (which is why so many towns now have daily free papers)and I am a fierce critic of the aforementioned "rag".
BUT.
They are bang on the money with this campaign and all they are trying to do is to make people aware of the possible consequences of their selfish actions.
If that fails then a "name and shame" campaign might just do the job.
"Are the Echo really interested in the safety of children or selling more copies of their rag?"
I doubt that the Echo really give a toss about sales, the money is in the adverts (which is why so many towns now have daily free papers)and I am a fierce critic of the aforementioned "rag".
BUT.
They are bang on the money with this campaign and all they are trying to do is to make people aware of the possible consequences of their selfish actions.
If that fails then a "name and shame" campaign might just do the job.
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 10:52pm Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote][bold]godzilla[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]PETE WOODLEY[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]simon[/bold] wrote: What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.[/quote] Simon,get a brain,you are a typical loudmouth who mouths off to older people,but would never say a word to some of the bullies who park where they like,and might take a swing at him,these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion,all my life i have come across a lot of them,thats why i have been involved in so many fights,and still stand my ground at nearly 74,i despise bullying and bullies of any sort,and you Simon are one,and a nasty one.[/quote] Pete,please stop thinking that evry person on here disagrees with you because they are anti age. We are not I am 54 somewhere around the middle age I hope and people of all woalks of life write on these threads and I ahve great respect for old and young. Not all younger people are idiots and you can be a bit touchy, also a thought to the young writers not all older people are grumpy and wrong [/quote] Sorry "scary" but simple simon was referring to old age and high chairs, is that not offensive to the old and disabled.
godzilla wrote:
PETE WOODLEY wrote:
simon wrote: What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.
Simon,get a brain,you are a typical loudmouth who mouths off to older people,but would never say a word to some of the bullies who park where they like,and might take a swing at him,these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion,all my life i have come across a lot of them,thats why i have been involved in so many fights,and still stand my ground at nearly 74,i despise bullying and bullies of any sort,and you Simon are one,and a nasty one.
Pete,please stop thinking that evry person on here disagrees with you because they are anti age. We are not I am 54 somewhere around the middle age I hope and people of all woalks of life write on these threads and I ahve great respect for old and young. Not all younger people are idiots and you can be a bit touchy, also a thought to the young writers not all older people are grumpy and wrong
Sorry "scary" but simple simon was referring to old age and high chairs, is that not offensive to the old and disabled.
Posted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 7:46am Fri 25 Apr 08
Sorry Pete that was mean to be for all who post here, I really enjoy a good debate but I dont like it when it gets personal I respect all opinions even when I dont agree with them
Sorry Pete that was mean to be for all who post here, I really enjoy a good debate but I dont like it when it gets personal I respect all opinions even when I dont agree with them
Posted by: Jon E, Winton on 5:34pm Fri 25 Apr 08
PETE WOODLEY wrote:[quote]these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion[/quote]
Yes and you seem to be chief among them, Pete.
PETE WOODLEY wrote:
these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion
Yes and you seem to be chief among them, Pete.
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 5:52pm Fri 25 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Jon E[/bold] wrote:
PETE WOODLEY wrote:[quote]these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion[/quote]
Yes and you seem to be chief among them, Pete.[/quote] Thanks for proving my point.
Jon E wrote:
PETE WOODLEY wrote:these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion
Yes and you seem to be chief among them, Pete.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by: PETE WOODLEY on 5:55pm Fri 25 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Jon E[/bold] wrote:
PETE WOODLEY wrote:[quote]these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion[/quote]
Yes and you seem to be chief among them, Pete.[/quote] Thanks for proving my point.
Jon E wrote:
PETE WOODLEY wrote:these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion
Yes and you seem to be chief among them, Pete.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by: Jon E, Winton on 6:01pm Fri 25 Apr 08
So when you criticize others, you are legitimately expressing your opinion but when others do it they are mouthy idiots, is that what I should infer?
So when you criticize others, you are legitimately expressing your opinion but when others do it they are mouthy idiots, is that what I should infer?
Posted by: Karen on 10:13pm Thu 15 May 08
It's not about lazy, nor inconsiderate.. it's about lack of needed parking. The few disabled drivers parked 'legally' were more than likely parked using their parents, inlaws or grandparents blue badges as we see all the time. How quaint.
As more mothers these days, and let's not forget that years ago Mothers didn't work whereas they do now, there are strict time scales to adhere to so with a work start time of 9 am, with the traffic conditions, it's not surprising that Mothers have to drop off their children as quickly as possible. Would you all like them on benefits where time wasn't important? Exactly... cut them some blooming slack for heavens sake... for all those whinging that are on benefits or lucky enough to have partners that can support your Tricia watching day spare a thought those that have to get to work keep you in a manner you're accustomed to paying tax and working hard... so shut up!
It's not about lazy, nor inconsiderate.. it's about lack of needed parking. The few disabled drivers parked 'legally' were more than likely parked using their parents, inlaws or grandparents blue badges as we see all the time. How quaint.
As more mothers these days, and let's not forget that years ago Mothers didn't work whereas they do now, there are strict time scales to adhere to so with a work start time of 9 am, with the traffic conditions, it's not surprising that Mothers have to drop off their children as quickly as possible. Would you all like them on benefits where time wasn't important? Exactly... cut them some blooming slack for heavens sake... for all those whinging that are on benefits or lucky enough to have partners that can support your Tricia watching day spare a thought those that have to get to work keep you in a manner you're accustomed to paying tax and working hard... so shut up!
Posted by: Karen on 10:17pm Thu 15 May 08
[quote][bold]PETE WOODLEY[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]simon[/bold] wrote:
What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.[/quote] Simon,get a brain,you are a typical loudmouth who mouths off to older people,but would never say a word to some of the bullies who park where they like,and might take a swing at him,these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion,all my life i have come across a lot of them,thats why i have been involved in so many fights,and still stand my ground at nearly 74,i despise bullying and bullies of any sort,and you Simon are one,and a nasty one.[/quote] Mouthy idiots? That's rich coming from you.
PETE WOODLEY wrote:
simon wrote:
What, no photographs from echo photographers sckulking in bushes? So the echo victimisation campaign is back after a short break to keep the heat off themselves, and what a suprise....all the usual people come out of the woodwork and ask for peoples cars to be comfiscated or the children to be expelled. You people live in the dark ages. When was the last time you had children at school? 1943? Presumably back in the old days when you could walk to school because there were no cars on the roads, and chldren actualy did live near to their school.. You really need to look at the real world for a change rather than just spouting off from you orthoepedic Shackleton high chairs. Parking needs to be provided. Not abuse.
Simon,get a brain,you are a typical loudmouth who mouths off to older people,but would never say a word to some of the bullies who park where they like,and might take a swing at him,these columns are full of mouthy idiots with no respect for the rights of others to have their own opinion,all my life i have come across a lot of them,thats why i have been involved in so many fights,and still stand my ground at nearly 74,i despise bullying and bullies of any sort,and you Simon are one,and a nasty one.
Mouthy idiots? That's rich coming from you.
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